What? That's incredibly false.CB Aqua jet does ~47%.
252 Adamant CB Aqua Jet v 273 Hp and 156 Def: 65.93--78.02%
What? That's incredibly false.CB Aqua jet does ~47%.
Rhydon in no way outclasses Donphan. Rhydon does make for a better RPer definitely, and arguable a better CBer since it has higher attack and STAB on Rock (although Donphan has good priority). But Rhydo could never be as good as a physical tank as Donphan because it has a weakness to Close Combat and Earthquake, and is straight out OHKO'd by a water or grass attack (except maybe an Aqua Jet). And Donphan can Spin.I really don't see why people think that Donphan will do any better in UU. As far as I can tell, It is mostly outclassed by Rhydon. Unless you need a rapid spinner or priority, Rhydon usually passes the test far better than Donphan.
I think you're exaggerating just a bit. >_<Every NU team will be like this
Lead
ninetales
muk
gardevoir
primape
poliwrath
UU teams will be
Lead
****
****
****
dugtrio
donphan
I was joking about every , but most will
Where's Ursaring and Medicham?Every NU team will be like this
Lead
ninetales
muk
gardevoir
primape
poliwrath
Water, Grass, and Ice attacks are all primarily specially oriented. Both Rhydon and Donphan share an absurdly low special defense, so the fact that Rhydon is defensively weak to these attacks is largely irrelevant when Donphan is just as likely to go down as well (A 4x weakness isn't much worse than a 2x when you die anyways)Rhydon in no way outclasses Donphan. Rhydon does make for a better RPer definitely, and arguable a better CBer since it has higher attack and STAB on Rock (although Donphan has good priority). But Rhydo could never be as good as a physical tank as Donphan because it has a weakness to Close Combat and Earthquake, and is straight out OHKO'd by a water or grass attack (except maybe an Aqua Jet). And Donphan can Spin.
Yes this is why sub/CM Missy is best used as a late game sweeper. If you run Tbolt/Shadow Ball its probably because your team has no problems with Steelix. Besides Steelix is hardly a pokemon that typically sits in the back of your roster until late game. If you're one of the 25% that run energy ball on Roserade instead of Leaf Storm then yes I guess that would work~Um, no. My Roserade just kept whacking at it with Energy Ball. It eventually died and did only about 40% to my Roserade.
My Steelix was never 2HKO'd, but I ran 252/252 Careful and never regretted it. You don't need Crunch. Just switch into the Sub/CM and Gyro Ball it. Same with things like Yanmega. Gyro Ball is a pretty effective move.
And I thought that the SubCMer can only have two moves? In which case Mismagius opens itself to whatever it can't hit. Good luck getting passed Steelix with Shadow Ball/Thunderbolt.
Who counters Missy with offensive Altaria?
I never said these pokemon were 100% counters, just that /most/ of the time they come out on top, and that Mismagius can't set up on them. These are some of the most common pokemon and Mismagius struggles with most of them.
Claydol/Torterra wall it. Rhydon does it better.I'm not too experienced with UU, but I was thinking of using an offensive Donphan set that mimicks Empoleons AgilitySubPetaya
Donphan@Leichi Berry
Adamant/Jolly Nature
252 Atk, 252 Spe
-Rock Polish
-Substitute
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
Without Bronzong, EQ and Stone Edge attain perfect coverage I believe. Donphan's stats at +2 Speed and +1 attack are pretty scary. What do you guys think?
With priority being on so many teams in UU, I generally avoid subberry strategies... Too much can go wring with themI'm not too experienced with UU, but I was thinking of using an offensive Donphan set that mimicks Empoleons AgilitySubPetaya
Donphan@Leichi Berry
Adamant/Jolly Nature
252 Atk, 252 Spe
-Rock Polish
-Substitute
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
Without Bronzong, EQ and Stone Edge attain perfect coverage I believe. Donphan's stats at +2 Speed and +1 attack are pretty scary. What do you guys think?
It can certainly sweep. You just don't, you know, send it out at the beggining of the battle. Once priority users are gone it's basically GG.And people though BellyZard could actually sweep...
By the time overgrow is activated, you have probably taken down 1-2 pokemon, and with Overgrow Wood Hammer, it will likely net you another kill, which is surely more advantageous than being stuck with Earthquake / non-STAB Stone Edge, inferior in almost every way.Yeah, only problem is, once Overgrow gets activated, you usually only get to attack once more...
I foresee Donphans in UU to be of three varieties: Defensive/Support, CB, and Bulky Offensive.
That is another reason why I hate Torterra... It sucks to be on the receiving end of this.My favorite right now is CB Torterra. It can 2HKO every pokemon in the tier.
I love when Spiritombs/Venusaur switch in and get 2HKO'd.
Weezing? Tangrowth?My favorite right now is CB Torterra. It can 2HKO every pokemon in the tier.
Ahh yes I forgot those. But I have yet to face a Weezing and most people sacrifice there Tangrowths early for some reason. I mean, keeping Tangrowth in on LOMilotic? Come on people. ._.Weezing? Tangrowth?