A good set for Doryuuzu is Choice Band. With sandstorm support and the ability Sand Throw it's an absolute beast
That set doesn't offer many advantages over the standard SD set. In particular, Shadow Claw offers mostly redundant coverage with X-Scissor, only giving you better coverage for Burungeru and Dusknoir/Dusclops (contact moves on Desukaan will ruin your sweep, and Gengar dies to a stiff wind). In addition to this, Expert Belt is lousy on Dory because while it has excellent neutral coverage in three moves, it has pretty ho-hum super-effective coverage.Doryuuzu @ Expert Belt Sand Throw
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Shadow Claw
- Rock Slide
- X-Scissor
I agree, it works like a choice scarf terakion with more power. it can pretty much revenge kill the metagame.A good set for Doryuuzu is Choice Band. With sandstorm support and the ability Sand Throw it's an absolute beast
It only works as revenge kill so he's not a "counter"As for counters: Focus Sash and Sturdy users can take him down, especially Dageki, who is the only Pokémon capable of using Reversal combined with Sturdy to get an easy peasy OHKO on him.
If that was an argument to not use choiced ground/rock attack users then the metagame would be totally different. I think it at least deserves an OC mention.Hmm....not sure about this one. Though Edgequake has great coverage in general, having them on a Choice set is kind of iffy due to so many Pokemon resisting either Earthquake or Rock Slide.
with any entry hazard damage that wont work. nor will it last more than 1 turn because of sandstorm chipping off that last 1 hp of dageki.As for counters: Focus Sash and Sturdy users can take him down, especially Dageki, who is the only Pokémon capable of using Reversal combined with Sturdy to get an easy peasy OHKO on him.
I think Aerial Ace could be "another option", since it seems for just Virizion (which you may or may not even encounter). It's a novelty at best, in my opinion, unless it hits other significant targets of note. X-scissor/Return seems to maintain a more substantial presence, but I get where Aerial Ace is coming from.I've been using a kind of different set with Doryuuzu:
Doryuuzu @ Balloon
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Rapid Spin
Aerial Ace
Basically your Swords Dance set with Aerial Ace over Swords Dance. It actually works pretty well, since Aerial Ace OHKOes every Birijion I've met so far (not sure what their EV spreads are), and a +2 Return fails to OHKO.
Hm, no. Read.44lvlc0 said:can we just say this is OU and finish it? it's too obvious.
AccidentalGreed said:What's "too obvious"? We're still pending the analysis for all Pokemon, you know, so we can't just say "this Pokemon looks awesome, put it in OU". OU is based off usage, not how "awesome" a Pokemon is. And we ARE in the OU analyses.
For any Pokemon that can "work" in Trick room, we normally don't write set analyses for them unless they actually work specifically in Trick Room. Minimizing Doryuuzu's Speed and giving it Trick Room support doesn't really warrant it a Trick Room analysis as like Rhypherior. Since a wide range of competitors can minimize their own Speeds (Dragonite, Uxie, Tyranitar, and friends) and "work" in Trick Room, they don't really warrant a TR set unless they have a specific niche.Something that should be in AC IMHO: It also works with Sand Throw in Trick Room. Even though base 88 speed(IIRC) is pretty high, with the current metagame revolving around speed, with speed downing-nature and 0IVs it can "outspeed" a lot. Also, the sheer power of Sand Throw Dory is so impressive, it doesn't need any other setup than Trick Room, providing place for great coverage.
The new name (insert your opinion here).Excadrill.
Earthquake is not a contact move, nor is Rock Slide. Shadow Claw is, but I can't say I've ever seen anyone actually use it on Excadrill anyway. Super-effective Shadow Claw is weaker than STAB neutral EQ; pretty much the only time it's better than X-Scissor is on Gengar, who can't take a Rock Slide anyway.How about Desukaan with its Mummy ability and power share? It will ruin Sand Rush and cripple Doryuuzu. Also with will-o-wisp it could cut Doryuuzu's attack even more.
Yeah! I agree with your remark about Balloon, and I thought I'd already made that change but apparently not. I also agree that CB could use a set, I was just being a lazyass. I wrote up a skeleton for it. Other than that, I've updated the OP to conform with your suggestions, all of which I agree with.Iconic said:Is anything happening here?