Checkmater
It’s just us kittens left, and the rain is coming
If we're going on about inclusion of tiers, why are we just leaving Doubles Ubers on the side, undiscussed? To say that it's worth developing or playing out is ridiculous: Look back at ORAS Doubles in its most infant stage. Compare it to now. If you flip back 1 or 2 pages on this forum you can already see the quick and drastic differences in builds and metagame from then and now, so to say Doubles Ubers will be unworthy of development is a flawed argument. I know no one's directly said that in this thread, but it's something that's been said in chat that I thought I should address on the table. It was also included in Fall Cup I think, so there's that.
Moving on, Doubles Ubers could exist as a compromise between inclusion of VGC but still keeping it doubles. Lots of mechanics of DUbers are likely to be foreign to DOU players such that VGC players, being familiar with said mechanics, will benefit. It'll still be 6v6 and involve a drastic difference enough from VGC that said VGC players wouldn't rather just literally play at some PC or some online tour rather than, as shake and Keith said, join some sub-forum tour that they're not invested in.
Frankly, I could easily see us doing either of (2xDOU / 2xBW / DUbers / DUU) or (3xDOU / BW / DUbers / DUU) which are permutations I think haven't really been discussed
Do we really need 3 DOU? I for one am not really looking forward to having MORE OU games when that's what literally all our tours...
In addition, while I can see us easily having 18 quality players for DOU, many of said players are going to be moving to some kind of other meta, from off the bat I can think of Stratos -> BW, Xzern -> Duu, AuraRayquaza -> BW, Possible VGC'ers / maybe KyleCole (doesn't he run that thread about DUbers) -> DUbers, etc. Will we really have enough for 18 dedicated, quality DOU players? I'm not so sure if that'll be the case or if it'll be entertaining.
If there's anything you think I didn't address or if you think DUbers is shit (I've certainly never played the meta) go ahead and tell me so.
Moving on, Doubles Ubers could exist as a compromise between inclusion of VGC but still keeping it doubles. Lots of mechanics of DUbers are likely to be foreign to DOU players such that VGC players, being familiar with said mechanics, will benefit. It'll still be 6v6 and involve a drastic difference enough from VGC that said VGC players wouldn't rather just literally play at some PC or some online tour rather than, as shake and Keith said, join some sub-forum tour that they're not invested in.
Frankly, I could easily see us doing either of (2xDOU / 2xBW / DUbers / DUU) or (3xDOU / BW / DUbers / DUU) which are permutations I think haven't really been discussed
Do we really need 3 DOU? I for one am not really looking forward to having MORE OU games when that's what literally all our tours...
In addition, while I can see us easily having 18 quality players for DOU, many of said players are going to be moving to some kind of other meta, from off the bat I can think of Stratos -> BW, Xzern -> Duu, AuraRayquaza -> BW, Possible VGC'ers / maybe KyleCole (doesn't he run that thread about DUbers) -> DUbers, etc. Will we really have enough for 18 dedicated, quality DOU players? I'm not so sure if that'll be the case or if it'll be entertaining.
If there's anything you think I didn't address or if you think DUbers is shit (I've certainly never played the meta) go ahead and tell me so.