SPOILERS! Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon Datamine Thread

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Siggu

Siggu

I just noticed that Toxapex will be able to learn Knock Off. As if it weren't annoying enough already, though I guess it will cause some 4MSS. Even Pain Split if you want to go and exploit Pex's low base HP, but that's gimmicky at best.
 
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jackgraves

jackgraves

Shujinkō said:
*Cough* Contrary Defog Serperior vs Magic Bounce *Cough*

How does it even learn defog? Using the leaves like a fan?
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Probably. I mean, there might need to be some stretches in logic here, seeing as Rotom, Carnivine, Florges, and even Klefki can learn Defog now (the last confuses me the most).

So far, these are some of my favorite new, weird move compatibilities:

Throat Chop Fearow
Defog Silvally
Sticky Web Slurpuff
First Impression Farfetch'd (GF keeps trying to make competitive Farfetch'd a thing)
Laser Focus Pachirisu

Also, Araquanid and Ribombee get Sticky Web, Extreme Speed is just a plain old Egg Move for Zigzagoon (no Event needed), Bellsprout, Oddish, and Hoppip all get Strength Sap through Breeding, and I'm going to make Liquidation, Aqua Jet, Brave Bird, U-Turn Swanna a thing, you have my word.
 
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Sulfurian

Now if they could add other event moves onto old pokemon too that'd be great. At least give Entei flare blitz and raikou aura sphere
 
Zé Capáu

Zé Capáu

got this from serebii forums, seems to be the moveset changes

Necrozma: Photon Geyser
Lucario: Meteor Mash (Egg Move, Smeargle)
Tropius: Dragon Hammer (Egg Move)
Kommo-o: Close Combat
Aipom: Tail Slap(Egg Move)
Tao Trio: Noble Roar
Volbeat: Lunge (Egg Move)
Joltik: Lunge (Egg Move)
Spinarak: Lunge (Egg Move)
Tsareena: Power Whip, Punishment
Drowzee: Psychic Terrain (Egg Move), Wake-Up Slap(replaces second Headbutt)
Fennekin: Psychic Terrain (Egg Move)
Girafarig: Psychic Terrain (Egg Move)
Mime Jr./Mr. Mime: Psychic Terrain (Egg Move)
Cottonee: Misty Terrain (Egg Move)
Skiddo: Grassy Terrain (Egg Move)
Sewaddle: Grassy Terrain (Egg Move)
Paras: Grassy Terrain (Egg Move)
Cherubi: Grassy Terrain (Egg Move)
Popplio-line: Icy Wind
Hoppip: Strength Sap (Egg Move)
Oddish: Strength Sap (Egg Move)
Bellsprout: Strength Sap (Egg Move)
Lanturn: Spotlight
Litten-line: Double Kick, Scary Face, Power Trip (Egg Move)
Rowlet-line: Ominous Wind.
Spritzee: Nasty Plot (Egg Move)
Zigzagoon: Extreme Speed (Egg Move)
Phanpy: High Horsepower (Egg Move)
Ponyta: High Horsepower (Egg Move)
Dewpider: Sticky Web (Egg Move)
Swirlix: Sticky Web (Egg Move)
Cutiefly: Sticky Web (Egg Move), Powder (Egg Move)
Yungoos: Elemental Fangs (Egg Move)
Yamask: Crafty Shield (Egg Move)
Wooper: Power-Up Punch (Egg Move)
Sandshrew: Hone Claws (Egg Move)
Oshawott: Sacred Sword (Egg Move, Smeargle)
Piplup: Power Trip (Egg Move)
Farfetch'd: First Impression (Egg Move, Smeargle), Final Gambit (Egg Move)
Roselia: Power Whip (Egg Move)
Petilil: Encore (Egg Move)
Tepig: Burn Up (Egg Move)
Bouffalant: Cotton Guard (Egg Move)
Girafarig: Psychic Fangs (Egg Move)
Zangoose: Belly Drum (Egg Move)
Abra: Psychic Terrain (Egg Move)
Blitzle: Feint (Egg Move)
Hawlucha: Feint (Egg Move)
Buizel: Helping Hand (Egg Move)
Buneary: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Cacnea: Power-Up Punch (Egg Move)
Chespin: Power-Up Punch (Egg Move)
Chimchar: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Froakie: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Grimer(Both forms): Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Kecleon: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Mawile: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Phantump: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Scraggy: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move), Acid Spray (Egg Move)
Snorlax: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Timburr: Power- Up Punch (Egg Move)
Carnivine: Acid Spray (Egg Move)
Pansage: Spiky Shield (Egg Move)
Pansear: Belch (Egg Move), Flare Blitz (Egg Move)
Deino: Belch (Egg Move)
Decidueye: Shadow Sneak, Phantom Force, Leaf Storm
Shelmet: Toxic Spikes (Egg Move)
Pumpkaboo: Curse (Egg Move)
Pyukumuku: Spite (Egg Move)
Spiritomb: Disable (Egg Move)
Lickitung: Thrash (Egg Move)
Numel: Heavy Slam (Egg Move)
Turtwig: Heavy Slam (Egg Move)
Trubbish: Autotomize (Egg Move)
Tympole: Venom Drench (Egg Move)
Whismur: Whirlwind (Egg Move)
Dedenne: Tearful Look (Egg Move)
Plusle: Tearful Look (Egg Move)
Patrat: Tearful Look (Egg Move), Bullet Seed (Egg Move)
Minun: Tearful Look (Egg Move)
Flabébé: Tearful Look (Egg Move)
Darumaka: Extrasensory (Egg Move)
Deerling: Headbutt (Egg Move)
Delibird: Counter (Egg Move)
Ducklett: Aqua Jet (Egg Move)
Finneon: Confuse Ray (Egg Move)
Hoothoot: Hurricane (Egg Move)
Pachirisu: Baby-Doll Eyes (Egg Move)
Sentret: Baby-Doll Eyes (Egg Move)
Swablu: Play Rough (Egg Move)
Tangela: Wake-Up Slap (Egg Move)

Move Tutors:
Lurantis gets Superpower.
Incineroar gets Superpower and Knock Off.
Kommo-o gets Drain Punch.
Kartana gets Iron Defense and Knock Off.
Incineroar, Crabominable, Bewear, Passimian, Mimikyu, Kommo-o, Buzzwole, Guzzlord, Marshadow, and Zeraora get Drain Punch.
Incineroar, Crabominable, Mudsdale, Lurantis, Bewear, Passimian, Komala, Drampa, Kommo-o, Tapu Bulu, Solgaleo, Buzzwole, Celesteela, Marshadow, Stakataka, and Zeraora get Superpower.

source: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showth...POILER-Thread-(Enter-at-your-own-risk!)/page5
 
CTNC

CTNC

Doesn't know how to attack
Two notes:

1: Altaria isn't in the Alola Dex or Island Scan. I don't know what this means for its Mega Stone.
2: Stakataka needs a -Defence Nature to get an Attack boost from Beast Boost.
 

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Siggu said:
I find it curious how Zeraora can learn Thunder Punch and Fire Punch... but not Ice Punch.
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Gotta keep ground types as checks.
Elite 4 Pauly said:
i know that box arts are locked but im wondering if thats just for when you encounter them and picking up a cosmog wouldnt count maybe
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I doubt it would be unlocked tbh. They're always stingy with shiny legends and it would make no sense imo to unlock it at any point considering gf logic.
 
Some random freak

Some random freak

I'm hyped for Naganadel. Great speed, good Special Attack, Heat Wave to deal with those pesky steels and of course, BEASHT BOOSHT!

I think Specs will be its best set.
 
Siggu

Siggu

Some random freak said:
I'm hyped for Naganadel. Great speed, good Special Attack, Heat Wave to deal with those pesky steels and of course, BEASHT BOOSHT!

I think Specs will be its best set.
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On paper, it's a better Latios. It's faster, it's not Pursuit-weak, it can deal with Fairies thanks to Poison STAB and it has a better move to deal with Steels. It does not seem it can beat Pex, though (we'd need the TM moveset to know)
 
1234hjkl

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Siggu said:
On paper, it's a better Latios. It's faster, it's not Pursuit-weak, it can deal with Fairies thanks to Poison STAB and it has a better move to deal with Steels. It does not seem it can beat Pex, though (we'd need the TM moveset to know)
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Dude what?

+2 252 SpA Devastating Drake (195 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Toxapex: 351-414 (115.4 - 136.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Toxapex: 305-360 (100.3 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The only mon I can think stoping it are Av-Mage and Heatran and one needs to be healty to swallow a 2+ Heat Wave and it can brute force his way around Heatran.

+2 252 SpA Devastating Drake (195 BP) vs. 248 HP / 220+ SpD Heatran: 222-261 (57.6 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 220+ SpD Heatran: 192-226 (49.8 - 58.7%) -- 74.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Ema Skye

Ema Skye

Work!
Siggu said:
On paper, it's a better Latios. It's faster, it's not Pursuit-weak, it can deal with Fairies thanks to Poison STAB and it has a better move to deal with Steels. It does not seem it can beat Pex, though (we'd need the TM moveset to know)
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Do we know if it gets Fire Blast? Otherwise, it's walled by Magearna.
 
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