I’ve been using Kartana myself and I think Kartana isn’t that broken. Ppl just don’t not bother to carry Grass/Steel resist when there are actually quite plenty of them to choose from, not just Arcanine lol. What about Zard forms? Zapdos? Thundy? Celesteela (which is underrated imo)? Magnezone? Even Intimidate Gyarados? C’mon, be creative ppl. And people who carry those doesn’t have problems with Kart.
Zygarde IS broken however. It’s check is very few and you are forced to use obscure crap like Whimsicott because Zygarde can tank a hit, ESPECIALLY when you pair it with Koko and Electric Seed. Bulu and Clefable gets smacked by Iron Tail/Sludge Bomb and everything else just got Espeed/Arrows. But the REAL thing that made me hate it is that 95% of the time Zygarde is UNREVENGEABLE because it has DD + E-speed AND high bulk. Because of this, you can’t even revenge it using Scarf and that is BS.
TLDR, ban Zygarde, DNB Kartana.
Zygarde IS broken however. It’s check is very few and you are forced to use obscure crap like Whimsicott because Zygarde can tank a hit, ESPECIALLY when you pair it with Koko and Electric Seed. Bulu and Clefable gets smacked by Iron Tail/Sludge Bomb and everything else just got Espeed/Arrows. But the REAL thing that made me hate it is that 95% of the time Zygarde is UNREVENGEABLE because it has DD + E-speed AND high bulk. Because of this, you can’t even revenge it using Scarf and that is BS.
TLDR, ban Zygarde, DNB Kartana.