And this is new because...? Moody was intentionally killed by Moody Clause back in Gen V, and Gyaradosite and Ampharosite are banned because Moody's their only Ability after Shifting.
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Ability Shift
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Im just reminding people about the moody clause. I didn't say it was new in anyway.
When I try to use Mega Gengar, I can't because it says, "Gengar-Mega can't have Levitate." But it doesn't have levitate. What's going on?
But Rock Head Nidoking with Double Edge and Head Smash...
But seriously, that might make up for its wanting attack stat.
I also tried Prankster Dragalge with Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, and Dragon Tail.
But seriously, that might make up for its wanting attack stat.
I also tried Prankster Dragalge with Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, and Dragon Tail.
Ok I feel the best attack in the metagame is ludicolo's scald it gets pb so thats a really high burn chance and it's so lolzy ludicolo is really underrated.
Awesome new set I have been experimenting with:
Muk @ Leftovers
252HP 252SpD 4At
Prankster
Curse
Rest
Sleep Talk
Poison jab/coverage move instead
This Muk set is really cool because everything gets priority when asleep! He has reliable recovery because now he can set up on physical attackers getting a defense boost before they attack, and can heal before they finish him off. Then, if you're lucky, he gets to attack with priority! Steels and wonder guarders should be eliminated before attempting to setup full on, but otherwise it works wonders!
A good partner for Prankster Muk is:
Toxicroak @ Leftovers
Combination of speed, hp, and attack
Arena Trap
Bulk up
Sub/Poison jab
Drain Punch
Sucker Punch
This guy traps and kills steels that get in Muk's way. He can also setup on a wide variety of things and sweep himself. These two should also be run with a ground immune cleric like say Togekiss, or also can function just fine separately if the idea of two setup poison types is unappealing, but Muk will need someone to eliminate steels.
Thoughts?
Muk @ Leftovers
252HP 252SpD 4At
Prankster
Curse
Rest
Sleep Talk
Poison jab/coverage move instead
This Muk set is really cool because everything gets priority when asleep! He has reliable recovery because now he can set up on physical attackers getting a defense boost before they attack, and can heal before they finish him off. Then, if you're lucky, he gets to attack with priority! Steels and wonder guarders should be eliminated before attempting to setup full on, but otherwise it works wonders!
A good partner for Prankster Muk is:
Toxicroak @ Leftovers
Combination of speed, hp, and attack
Arena Trap
Bulk up
Sub/Poison jab
Drain Punch
Sucker Punch
This guy traps and kills steels that get in Muk's way. He can also setup on a wide variety of things and sweep himself. These two should also be run with a ground immune cleric like say Togekiss, or also can function just fine separately if the idea of two setup poison types is unappealing, but Muk will need someone to eliminate steels.
Thoughts?
You have to use normal gengar first then give it the new ability then give it the mega stone. After You mega evolve mega gengar will have shedskin.
Burgerking have you gotten to the bans yet ? The metagame is kind of broken without the bans.
What do you mean by banning "both" What are the both. Is it imposter,wonder guard,and shadow tag? Also consider Banning Greninja and venomoth.
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Pikachuun
the entire waruda machine
Better edit the op with that :p
Is there any way you could give Skymin a new ability? Just so you don't have to ban it.
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Shaymin-Sky gets Shed Skin.
Serene Grace -> Shadow Tag -> Shed Skin
Immunity -> Imposter -> Infiltrator
Edit: Don't Repeat what i said.
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Is there any chance that white smoke will ever become wonder skin rather than wonder guard?
Pikachuun
the entire waruda machine
The only things that get it are Torkoal and Heatmor, who I don't see being too broken.
meh just asking
Wonder Guard is on suspect with Greninja with Pure Power. Wonder Guard has been increadibly harsh on new players, and the metagame is kind of centralizing on Wonder Guard. Hopefully Burger bans them soon :c, he is considering the bans.
But it's just torkoal and heatmor usually teams will run at least a few water/rock/ground moves on their teams
Torkoal almost always runs air baloon ground is worthless on him
also the only reason i use rock or water type on my teams is stab or torkoal
One interesting Pokemon I've found is Parental Bond Slowking. And with Nasty Plot, it is seriously hard to wall:
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 616-727 (87.5 - 103.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Aggron: 388-457 (112.7 - 132.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Clefable: 204-241 (51.7 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 358-423 (50.1 - 59.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
It 2HKOes the largest Special Wall with a non-SE Attack. It is very difficult to stop after it sets up thanks to its great bulk! Still has notable flaws, but still!
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 616-727 (87.5 - 103.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Aggron: 388-457 (112.7 - 132.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Clefable: 204-241 (51.7 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 358-423 (50.1 - 59.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
It 2HKOes the largest Special Wall with a non-SE Attack. It is very difficult to stop after it sets up thanks to its great bulk! Still has notable flaws, but still!
Nasty Plot / Scald / Psyshock / Fire Blast, but tbh I'm considering running Sub > Fire Blast, because:
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 204-241 (57.9 - 68.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ferrothorn: 151-180 (42.8 - 51.1%) -- 50.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 327-385 (100.9 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You don't really need to run Fire Blast, I can't find anything that Scald / Psyshock don't hit well enough to warrant running Fire Blast.
Also, Mega Gyarados appears to be a counter, resisting its STABs:
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Parental Bond Slowking Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gyarados: 184-219 (55.4 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock