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Ability Shift
- Thread starter Halliday
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GummyPotato
special little potato
Glaceon can set up hail by itself and just spam specs blizzard even though it's slow af, probably a good tr mon
Abomasnow has to go in sun but at least it can spam solar beams with solar power? RIP
Abomasnow has to go in sun but at least it can spam solar beams with solar power? RIP
Heatmor is quite frail, and Torkoal has good Physical Bulk.
has anyone messed around with the new imposter mons? RS starmie with imposter would be pretty sweet
Not really. Mega Gallade has a bad ability in standard and is still pretty good. Also, how is having a useless Mega Stone any worse than having a useless normal Pokemon?
Sandstorm571
I COULD BE BANNED!
No Guard Roserade = leaf storm spam
Moxie Electivire = scarf spam
Speed Boost Bouffalant = Sweeping Mayhem
Sheer Force Tyranitar/Scrafty = MAKE IT HAPPEN
Sand Rush Gigaliath= wont get much use, as Exca still retains.
Last but not least..... Fairy Aura Vileplume = MOONBLAST SPAM!!
Moxie Electivire = scarf spam
Speed Boost Bouffalant = Sweeping Mayhem
Sheer Force Tyranitar/Scrafty = MAKE IT HAPPEN
Sand Rush Gigaliath= wont get much use, as Exca still retains.
Last but not least..... Fairy Aura Vileplume = MOONBLAST SPAM!!
You can only use one Mega Pokemon in battle, and you better hope that one Pokemon would aid your team. Also, the Pokemon should become more threatening after Mega Evolving.
BTW, Insomnia isn't a bad ability.
Contrary = Leaf Storm spam.
I don't see No Guard being all that useful for Roserade.
It definitely gives better use of Grass Whistle, and Stun Spore.
Thunder Wave has 100% accuracy, but Stun Spore can affect Ground Type Pokemons.
Spore has 100% accuracy, but Grass Whistle can affect Grass Type Pokemon.
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Hey, Braviary with Delta Stream? :o
Not as good as Thunduras (Incarnate) and Tornadus (Incarnate). Anyway why is Torkoal banned and not Heatmor?
Heatmor doesn't have Shell Smash, is the main thing, as I understand it.
I know this was mentioned in the early pages of this thread, but Dusclops might actually be decent in this meta. Its movepool is still awful for something defensive, sure, but considering that with Fur Coat and Eviolite its effective Defense can reach to nearly 1200 with maxed EVs, barely anything will be able to dent it on the physical side. Gourgeist-Super might be a better Fur Coat user since its support movepool is better, though.
there's a lot of other stuff that looks interesting too but all of it has probably already been detailed here
EDIT: Multiscale Gyarados/Salamence (indeed Multiscale anything that gets Moxie normally, but especially Gyarados and Salamence since they're Dragon Dancers and have alright bulk to begin with), Delta Stream Tornadus-I (no weaknesses, dunno if it's worth using though), and Gooey Shuckle all sound interesting. Again, since everything gets an ability shift there's a lot of possibilities to sort through here.
there's a lot of other stuff that looks interesting too but all of it has probably already been detailed here
EDIT: Multiscale Gyarados/Salamence (indeed Multiscale anything that gets Moxie normally, but especially Gyarados and Salamence since they're Dragon Dancers and have alright bulk to begin with), Delta Stream Tornadus-I (no weaknesses, dunno if it's worth using though), and Gooey Shuckle all sound interesting. Again, since everything gets an ability shift there's a lot of possibilities to sort through here.
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Your sweeper can dump Toxic on it. Your sweeper can wipe its ability. Your sweeper can wait its turn until its buddies have gotten rid of Heatmor. (No sweeper should be able to kill the entire meta) You can set Stealth Rocks and repeatedly force-switch it into them, and then sweep.
Having personally extensively used Heatmor back when this was OMotM, I know how good/bad it is. It's okay, but it's not remotely great, and indeed given that, for instance, Parental Bond Slowbro/Slowking is a thing, there are Pokemon capable of murdering entire teams including Heatmor all on their lonesome.
If having Wonder Guard was reason enough to ban a thing, Shedinja would be banned from OU. It isn't, and hasn't been for four generations.
I'm still trying to get over parental bond smeargle
Wonderguard heatmor needs to be banned
Fur coat/Primordial sea Dusknoir? Prankster Muk? Technician Dodrio? Adaptability Venomoth? Refrigerate Staraptor? I'm very ok with this.