Jukain
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So, in this thread we're going to make a threat list for XY OU! Basically, we're trying to create something like this; a document that provides an overview on all of the relevant OU threats one might encounter without having to wade through every OU analysis to figure it out.
Rules
Format
Entries should follow the below format:
Get your sprites from here. No Serebii 3D images or anything like that.
General Writing Tips
Pokemon will be separated into offensive and defensive threats. This is not only to improve organization, but also to ensure there isn't an issue in cases such as Heatran where the Pokemon can function as both an offensive and defensive Pokemon. The entries will be entirely separate.
Mega Evolutions will be handled as separate Pokemon so that these entries don't get too cluttered. If a non-MEvo isn't a threat, it will not receive an entry. The other reason for this is so that a new player doesn't look at this and immediately think something like Mawile is a threat in OU because it has an entry.
Key
Pokemon = Entry has not been reserved.
Pokemon - Writer = Entry has been reserved, but not yet completed.
Pokemon - Writer = Entry has been completed.
Alakazam - Gary2346
Azumarill - unfixable
Bisharp - TRC
Breloom - SparksBlade
Conkeldurr - SparksBlade
Diggersby - SparksBlade
Dragonite - Ash Borer
Entei - SparksBlade
Garchomp - SparksBlade
Gengar - RotomPoison
Goodra - RotomPoison
Greninja - Psywaves
Gyarados - TheEpicBro
Hawlucha - SparksBlade
Heatran - RotomPoison
Infernape - SparksBlade
Kabutops - Swamp Link
Keldeo - Molk
Kingdra - SparksBlade
Kyurem-B - Swamp Link
Landorus - Ash Borer
Landorus-T - SparksBlade
Latias - Zam's Moustache
Latios - Valmanway
Mamoswine - AuraIllusions
Manaphy - LightningLuxray
Mega Aerodactyl - Psywaves
Mega Alakazam - Gary2346
Mega Charizard X - Molk
Mega Charizard Y - Jukain
Mega Garchomp - Ash Borer
Mega Gardevoir - Ash Borer
Mega Gyarados - Worldtour
Mega Heracross - Gary2346
Mega Manectric - Psywaves
Mega Medicham - Ash Borer
Mega Pinsir - Psywaves
Mega Scizor - TheEpicBro
Mega Tyranitar - TheEpicBro
Omastar - LightningLuxray
Raikou - Politoed
Scolipede - Fourth Inversion
Staraptor - Psywaves
Starmie - Psywaves
Talonflame - LightningLuxray
Terrakion - Valmanway
Thundurus - TRC
Thundurus-T - Alter
Tornadus-T - Alter
Tyranitar - Fourth Inversion
Victini - Mysteria
Alomomola - Rob.
Amoonguss - Mysteria
Bronzong - Fourth Inversion
Celebi - Fourth Inversion
Chansey - CyclicCompound
Chesnaught - CyclicCompound
Clefable - Fourth Inversion
Cresselia - -Clone-
Doublade - Psywaves
Ferrothorn - horyzhnz
Gastrodon - Mysteria
Gliscor - horyzhnz
Gyarados - TheEpicBro
Heatran - Mysteria
Hippowdon - TheEpicBro
Jirachi - -Clone-
Landorus-T - Mysteria
Mandibuzz - Fourth Inversion
Mega Blastoise - AuraIllusions
Mega Charizard X - Jukain
Mega Scizor - Fourth Inversion
Mega Venusaur - Psywaves
Mew - TheEpicBro
Quagsire - TRC
Rhyperior - RotomPoison
Rotom-W - Mysteria
Skarmory - CyclicCompound
Slowbro - Fourth Inversion
Slowking - TheEpicBro
Starmie - RotomPoison
Suicune - Alter
Talonflame - Fourth Inversion
Tentacruel - Anty
Zapdos - Swamp Link
Azelf - Psywaves
Gorebyss - Psywaves
Gothitelle - TRC
Klefki - SparksBlade
Magnezone - TheEpicBro
Politoed - Psywaves
Sableye - CyclicCompound
Shuckle - Ash Borer
Tyranitar - Fourth Inversion
Venomoth - Psywaves
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Alakazam - Gary2346 (written)
Azumarill - Gary2346 (written)
Bisharp - TRCarnivine (written)
Breloom - Ash Borer (written)
Chandelure - sidakarya (written)
Conkeldurr - CyclicCompound (written)
Crawdaunt - TRCarnivine (written)
Diggersby - TRCarnivine
Ditto - TRCarnivine (written)
Dragonite - Ash Borer (written)
Excadrill - Magnemite (written)
Garchomp
Galvantula - TRCarnivine
Gengar - CyclicCompound (written)
Greninja - ScraftyIsTheBest (written)
Gyarados - Swamp-Rocket (written)
Heatran - Magnemite
Infernape - Ash Borer (written)
Jirachi
Kabutops - Swamp Link (written)
Keldeo - Molk (written)
Kingdra - Ash Borer (written)
Kyurem-B - Swamp Link (written)
Landorus - Ash Borer (written)
Landorus-T - DarkSlay
Latias - Zam's Moustache (written)
Latios - Ash Borer (written)
Magnezone - CyclicCompound
Manaphy - Gary2346 (written)
Mamoswine - AuraIllusions (written)
Mega Absol - Swamp Link (written)
Mega Aerodactyl - Swamp Link (written)
Mega Alakazam - Gary2346 (written)
Mega Charizard X - Molk (written)
Mega Charizard Y - Jukain (written)
Mega Garchomp - Ash Borer (written)
Mega Gardevoir - Ash Borer (written)
Mega Gyarados -Swamp-Rocket (written)
Mega Heracross - Gary2346 (written)
Mega Lucario - Labyrinthine (written)
Mega Mawile - sidakarya (written)
Mega Pinsir - Gary2346 (written)
Mega Scizor - CyclicCompound (written)
Mega Tyranitar - Swamp-Rocket (written)
Mega Venusaur - Jukain (written)
Noivern - AuraIllusions (written)
Politoed - AuraIllusions
Rotom-W - CyclicCompound
Scizor - AuraIllusions (written)
Scolipede -
Smeargle - TRCarnivine (written)
Staraptor - sidakarya (written)
Starmie
Talonflame - TRCarnivine (written)
Terrakion - Ash Borer (written)
Thundurus - Labyrinthine (written)
Thundurus-T - Swamp Link (written)
Tornadus-T - Labyrinthine (written)
Tyranitar - Labyrinthine (written)
Victini - Ash Borer (written)
Volcarona - Swamp Link (written)
Amoonguss - CyclicCompound (written)
Blissey - CyclicCompound (written)
Celebi - CyclicCompound (written)
Chansey - CyclicCompound (written)
Chesnaught - CyclicCompound (written)
Clefable - CyclicCompound (written)
Cofagrigus - CyclicCompound (written)
Cresselia - Labyrinthine (written)
Dragonite - Zam's Moustache (written)
Ferrothorn - TRCarnivine (written)
Gastrodon - CyclicCompound (written)
Gliscor - CyclicCompound (written)
Goodra
Gyarados - Zam's Moustache (written)
Heatran - CyclicCompound (written)
Hippowdon - Swamp Link (written)
Jirachi - Zam's Moustache (written)
Landorus-T - DarkSlay
Latias - Zam's Moustache (written)
Mandibuzz - CyclicCompound (written)
Mega Aggron - CyclicCompound (written)
Mega Blastoise - AuraIllusions (written)
Mega Charizard X - Jukain (written)
Mega Scizor - CyclicCompound (written)
Mega Venusaur - CyclicCompound (written)
Quagsire - TRCarnivine (written)
Rotom-H - sidakarya (written)
Rotom-W - CyclicCompound (written)
Sableye - CyclicCompound (written)
Skarmory - CyclicCompound (written)
Slowbro - CyclicCompound (written)
Suicune - Labyrinthine (written)
Tangrowth - CyclicCompound (written)
Tentacruel - Swamp Link (written)
Togekiss - sidakarya (written)
Tyranitar - Swamp-Rocket (written)
Zapdos - Swamp Link (written)
Gothitelle - TRCarnivine (written)
Espeon - CyclicCompound (written)
Klefki - sidakarya (written)
Mew - CyclicCompound (written)
Politoed - sidakarya (written)
Smeargle - TRCarnivine (written)
Wobbuffet - Jukain (written)
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If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a VM/PM or contact me on IRC.
Rules
- You can reserve two Pokemon at a time. No more. I'm just going to make this the standard for everyone. This is to ensure that everyone can get their stuff done in a timely fashion. You cannot reserve more until both are done.
- You have five days to finish writing your entry after you reserve it. It's just a paragraph. If you don't get your entry done in this time, it will be reopened for reservation. Again, this is to ensure everything gets done in a timely fashion.
- Make a new post when you have your fully written entry. I can't possibly keep track of everyone editing their posts, so just make a new post when you've written something.
- You must have good knowledge of the OU metagame in order to write these. Everything will be quality checked later, but if an entry shows lack of knowledge, it will be reassigned to a more competent writer. Don't stress about grammar, but try and follow the standards here. It's not a big deal at all should you slip up, but adhering to these standards makes it easier for everyone, especially the people who will be GP checking this later.
- If you don't see a Pokemon on the list that you think should receive an entry, feel free to post about it. I did not include everything that is receiving an OU analysis -- only relevant OU threats. I may have misjudged or just missed something entirely, though. Likewise, if you feel I included something that should not receive an entry, post about that. For offensive threats, the requisite is that it be a relevant threat that you should be prepared for/don't want to be weak to. For defensive threats, the approach I took was pretty much 'you should be able to break this Pokemon'.
Format
Entries should follow the below format:
If a Hidden Ability isn't released, put (Unreleased) after the ability.[sprite]
Pokemon
Type: Type 1 (/ Type 2 if applicable)
Base Stats: HP / Atk / Def / SpA / SpD / Spe
Ability: First / Second / Third (if applicable)
Get your sprites from here. No Serebii 3D images or anything like that.
General Writing Tips
- Keep it concise. Did you see the short paragraphs in the linked BW OU threat list? Those are what we're aiming for.
- You are supposed to describe why these Pokemon are threats. The flaws don't illustrate how they are threats, so don't mention them. WHY is it threatening and HOW does it impact the metagame.
- Don't be too descriptive. That might sound like a weird thing to say, but it's a major part of keeping things concise. You don't need to list every move a Pokemon uses in its threat list entry; if there are any ones vital to mention, talk about them, but a lot of things can be generalized as 'coverage' and 'STABs'. So, you don't need to say Mega Charizard Y has access to Dragon Pulse, Earthquake, and Roost. What you CAN say is 'not even Heatran can stand in its way, as Earthquake fells it', or something to that effect. Just make sure something is an important detail.
Reservation Index (EVERYTHING IS DONE)guys, can we make this sound more like a threat list, and less like a bunch of overviews. The whole point of a threat list is to stress WHY a Pokemon is threatening, not what's bad about it. Why would we make team to beat a particular Pokemon if you're going to say 'it has poor Special Defense'. Say what's GOOD about a Pokemon you're writing about, and why it makes an impact in the tier. Telling us its flaws isn't going to help us that much, because we need to know what it can do, and why it does it well. I'm not saying to show off about a terrible Pokemon, but make it sound as if it's a positive, rather than a negative. Use this as a guideline, because THIS is what a threat list is supposed to look like.
Pokemon will be separated into offensive and defensive threats. This is not only to improve organization, but also to ensure there isn't an issue in cases such as Heatran where the Pokemon can function as both an offensive and defensive Pokemon. The entries will be entirely separate.
Mega Evolutions will be handled as separate Pokemon so that these entries don't get too cluttered. If a non-MEvo isn't a threat, it will not receive an entry. The other reason for this is so that a new player doesn't look at this and immediately think something like Mawile is a threat in OU because it has an entry.
Key
Pokemon = Entry has not been reserved.
Pokemon - Writer = Entry has been reserved, but not yet completed.
Azumarill - unfixable
Bisharp - TRC
Breloom - SparksBlade
Conkeldurr - SparksBlade
Diggersby - SparksBlade
Dragonite - Ash Borer
Entei - SparksBlade
Garchomp - SparksBlade
Gengar - RotomPoison
Goodra - RotomPoison
Greninja - Psywaves
Gyarados - TheEpicBro
Hawlucha - SparksBlade
Heatran - RotomPoison
Infernape - SparksBlade
Kabutops - Swamp Link
Keldeo - Molk
Kingdra - SparksBlade
Kyurem-B - Swamp Link
Landorus - Ash Borer
Landorus-T - SparksBlade
Latias - Zam's Moustache
Latios - Valmanway
Mamoswine - AuraIllusions
Manaphy - LightningLuxray
Mega Aerodactyl - Psywaves
Mega Alakazam - Gary2346
Mega Charizard X - Molk
Mega Charizard Y - Jukain
Mega Garchomp - Ash Borer
Mega Gardevoir - Ash Borer
Mega Gyarados - Worldtour
Mega Heracross - Gary2346
Mega Manectric - Psywaves
Mega Medicham - Ash Borer
Mega Pinsir - Psywaves
Mega Scizor - TheEpicBro
Mega Tyranitar - TheEpicBro
Omastar - LightningLuxray
Raikou - Politoed
Scolipede - Fourth Inversion
Staraptor - Psywaves
Starmie - Psywaves
Talonflame - LightningLuxray
Terrakion - Valmanway
Thundurus - TRC
Thundurus-T - Alter
Tornadus-T - Alter
Tyranitar - Fourth Inversion
Victini - Mysteria
Amoonguss - Mysteria
Bronzong - Fourth Inversion
Celebi - Fourth Inversion
Chansey - CyclicCompound
Chesnaught - CyclicCompound
Clefable - Fourth Inversion
Cresselia - -Clone-
Doublade - Psywaves
Ferrothorn - horyzhnz
Gastrodon - Mysteria
Gliscor - horyzhnz
Gyarados - TheEpicBro
Heatran - Mysteria
Hippowdon - TheEpicBro
Jirachi - -Clone-
Landorus-T - Mysteria
Mandibuzz - Fourth Inversion
Mega Blastoise - AuraIllusions
Mega Charizard X - Jukain
Mega Scizor - Fourth Inversion
Mega Venusaur - Psywaves
Mew - TheEpicBro
Quagsire - TRC
Rhyperior - RotomPoison
Rotom-W - Mysteria
Skarmory - CyclicCompound
Slowbro - Fourth Inversion
Slowking - TheEpicBro
Starmie - RotomPoison
Suicune - Alter
Talonflame - Fourth Inversion
Tentacruel - Anty
Zapdos - Swamp Link
Gorebyss - Psywaves
Gothitelle - TRC
Klefki - SparksBlade
Magnezone - TheEpicBro
Politoed - Psywaves
Sableye - CyclicCompound
Shuckle - Ash Borer
Tyranitar - Fourth Inversion
Venomoth - Psywaves
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Diggersby - TRCarnivine
Garchomp
Galvantula - TRCarnivine
Heatran - Magnemite
Jirachi
Landorus-T - DarkSlay
Magnezone - CyclicCompound
Mega Gyarados -
Politoed - AuraIllusions
Rotom-W - CyclicCompound
Scolipede -
Starmie
Goodra
Landorus-T - DarkSlay
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If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a VM/PM or contact me on IRC.
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