PU Talonflame [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

Bag of Trixx

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[OVERVIEW]
Talonflame provides teams with unmatched utility thanks to its incredible Speed, solid typing, ability, and great support movepool allowing it to switch into a myriad of different threats like Ribombee and Whimsicott. Its typing and access to two powerful STAB moves also make it somewhat hard to switch into. However, Talonflame finds itself over reliant on Heavy-Duty Boots, and it can struggle to check Pokemon like Passimian and Virizion due to their coverage. Additionally, Talonflame isn't particularly bulky to begin with, so even some strong neutral attacks such as Toxicroak's Gunk Shot are still dangerous.

[SET]
name: Offensive Pivot
move 1: Brave Bird / Flare Blitz
move 2: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
move 3: Roost
move 4: U-turn / Defog
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Flame Body
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
This set portrays Talonflame's utility and team support options at its disposal in order to provide an excellent pivot onto various attackers. Brave Bird allows Talonflame to hit Fighting-types such as Passimian, although Flare Blitz is also considered for its ability to pressure Heliolisk and Steel-types better such as Silvally-Steel and Alolan Sandslash. Will-O-Wisp provides Talonflame with effective measures to cripple physical attackers such as Togedemaru and Archeops, whereas Toxic can be better suited at wearing down bulkier defensive counters like Gigalith, Regirock, Lanturn, and Vaporeon. U-turn is essential for granting Talonflame a path for offensive momentum, although Defog makes for a solid option. Teammates like Virizion and Toxicroak greatly appreciate Talonflame's supportive capabilities; it can bring them on the field against the various Rock- and Water-types it invites in like Gigalith, Regirock, Vaporeon, and Lanturn via U-turn. Talonflame can also switch into attackers that they struggle against such as Ribombee and Silvally-Fairy. Heliolisk also makes a fantastic partner for completing a strong VoltTurn core. Its ability to handle Water-types like Vaporeon and Jellicent is ideal, since Talonflame naturally draws them in. Additionally, Heliolisk appreciates Talonflame's ability to offensively check several Fighting-types including Toxicroak and Virizion.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Bag of Trixx, 467518]]
- Quality checked by: [UberSkitty, 355061], [MZ, 202117]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic, 240732]]
 
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UberSkitty

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[OVERVIEW]

(make the first sentence about its speed and how that makes it a good utility mon)Talonflame is among the fastest pivots in the tier. It possesses an incredible offensive typing with access to reliable recovery and good supportive options such as Will-O-Wisp and Toxic. (these first two sentences can be combined into one) On the offensive side, Talonflame has two powerful STAB base 120 attacks in the likes of Flare Blitz and Brave Bird. Furthermore, Talonflame's typing grants it with key resistances to Fighting, Steel, Fairy, Bug, and Fire as well as an immunity to Ground.(people know what types it resists, list mons instead of types)(also move this to before the last stuff, its typing is more vital than its movepool) This is important because Talonflame can provide momentum of its own thanks to its access to U-turn and is able to actively pivot onto physical attackers' resisted hits by threatening them with either its strong STABS or status via Wisp, Toxic, or Flame Body burns. (you already mention status moves, remove this sentence)This can make Talonflame increasingly more difficult to deal with on the physical side since Talonflame deters opposing teams from gaining offensive momentum via U-turn spammers such as Passimian, Silvally-Steel, and Tsareena. (this can be shortened to "flame body makes uturn less spammable for mons like x and y)However, all of this is only possible thanks to its coveted Heavy-Duty Boots protecting it from Stealth Rock as well as correctly identifying predictions - as Talonflame's inferior bulk can be deemed problematic by well-timed Rock Slides and Knock Offs. Also, Gale Wings being ineffective if Talonflame isn't at full health means it can be forced to Roost when not needing to, and this can ultimately give up momentum. Talonflame is also considerably difficult to keep at full HP in games where it needs to rely on its STABs because both Flare Blitz and Brave Bird cause recoil damage. Additionally, Talonflame isn't particularly bulky to begin with; so even some strong neutral attacks such as Roserade's Sludge Bomb are devastating.

[SET]
name: Offensive Utility Pivot
move 1: Brave Bird / Flare Blitz
move 2: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
move 3: Roost
move 4: U-turn
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Flame Body / Gale Wings
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 Atk (order should be 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe)

[SET COMMENTS]

This set portrays Talonflame's utility and team support options at its disposal in order to provide an excellent pivot onto physical attackers, whilst also providing the team with speed control. Brave Bird and Flare Blitz hit considerably hard versus even some neutral switch-ins such as Silvally thanks to their high BP and provide Talonflame with effective means of handling common Grass or Fighting types in the tier, such as Passimian, Virizion, or Roserade. (instead of saying what they both do, say why u'd choose one over the other)Will-O-Wisp provides Talonflame with effective measures to cripple physical attackers such as Togedemaru and Archeops, whereas Toxic can be better suited at wearing down bulkier defensive counters such as Gigalith, Regirock, Lanturn, and Vaporeon. Roost is absolutely mandatory as it is Talonflame's means of reliable recovery, as well as Talonflame's means of keeping Gale Wings active. U-turn is essential for granting Talonflame a path for offensive momentum. Max HP investment is considered so that way Talonflame is most efficient at not being worn down too quickly as well as it increases the likelihood of Flame Body vs physical attackers due to higher health. However max Atk(Attack, the full words are used in the description) investment is also plausible as a means to make better use of Talonflame's strong STABs. If Talonflame is using Atk(Attack) investment, then Gale Wings is preferred over Flame Body in order to make Brave Bird considerably more potent as a way to check Choice Scarf Passimian better. However, (using "however" here makes it look like you're continuing the point about running max attack)Talonflame must be fearful of Knock Off users or attackers who carry any sort of effective coverage versus Talonflame, as losing its Heavy-Duty Boots or switching into a Rock Slide from Passimian can be fatal. Because of these types of interactions, Talonflame is best suited on offensive teams relying on its supportive utility, offensive coverage, and blistering speed. Teammates such as Virizion and Toxicroak greatly appreciate Talonflame's supportive capabilities. Talonflame loves both of the fighter's being able to handle all of the Rock types such as Regirock and Gigalith (especially because Sand Stream nullifies Gale Wings). Likewise, Talonflame also loves Virizion and Toxicroak for checking most of the Water types such as Vaporeon and Lanturn. On the other hand, Toxicroak and Virizion appreciate Talonflame being able to bring them in safely on guaranteed switch-ins such as the aforementioned Lanturn, Vaporeon, and Gigalith but also they enjoy Talonflame's ability to check Silvally-Fairy with Will-O-Wisp. Talonflame also appreciates Virizion specifically for its ability to be a good Knock Off absorber thanks to its Justified ability.(again u can easily fit everything about virizion and toxicroak into one or two sentences)
(add something about mons that form a voltturn core with talonflame)

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Bag of Trixx, 467518]]
- Quality checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
Again pretty long and I feel like a lot of the sentences could be made more clear by using less complicated language. QC 1/2
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[OVERVIEW]

Talonflame provides teams with excellent utility thanks to its incredible Speed- I dont know why there is a hyphen here, there's a lot of better ways to structure this sentence but ig GP will cover that possessing a strong offensive typing with access to reliable recovery and good supportive options such as Will-O-Wisp and Toxic. On the offensive side, Talonflame has two powerful STAB base 120 attacks in the likes form of Flare Blitz and Brave Bird. Thanks to Flame Body, Talonflame is can be increasingly difficult to deal with since it can deter U-turn users from wanting to spam spamming their pivoting move such as Passimian, Tsareena, and Silvally-Steel, thus being unable to gain offensive momentum. However, all of this is only possible thanks to its coveted Heavy-Duty Boots protecting it from Stealth Rock as well as correctly identifying predictions 'correctly identifying predictions' just sounds wrong, could again be a lot of things like 'somewhat risky predictions' or something - as Talonflame's inferior bulk can be deemed problematic by well-timed Rock Slides and Knock Offs. Also, Gale Wings being ineffective if Talonflame isn't at full health means it can be forced to Roost when not needing to, and this can ultimately give up momentum. Talonflame is also considerably difficult to keep at full HP in games where it needs to rely on its STABs because both Flare Blitz and Brave Bird cause recoil damage. Additionally, Talonflame isn't particularly bulky to begin with; so even some strong neutral attacks such as Virizion's Zen Headbutt or Air Slash are devastating devastating seems like a bit of an overstatement for air slash, it won't even do 1/3 of ur HP.

[SET]
name: Offensive Utility Pivot
move 1: Brave Bird / Flare Blitz
move 2: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
move 3: Roost
move 4: U-turn
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Flame Body / Gale Wings
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

This set portrays Talonflame's utility and team support options at its disposal in order to provide an excellent pivot onto physical attackers, whilst also providing the team with speed control. Brave Bird allows Talonflame to actively pose more of a threat to the Fighting types such as Passimian, however Flare Blitz is also considered for its ability to pressure the Steels better such as Silvally-Steel and Sandslash-Alola. Will-O-Wisp provides Talonflame with effective measures to cripple physical attackers such as Togedemaru and Archeops, whereas Toxic can be better suited at wearing down bulkier defensive counters such as Gigalith, Regirock, Lanturn, and Vaporeon. Roost is absolutely mandatory as it is Talonflame's means of reliable recovery, as well as Talonflame's means of keeping Gale Wings active. U-turn is essential for granting Talonflame a path for offensive momentum. Maximum HP investment is considered considered?? not sure what you're going for here so that way Talonflame is most efficient at not being worn down too quickly as well as it increases the likelihood of Flame Body vs physical attackers due to higher health flame body does not have a higher activation chance the higher HP talonflame has, which is how I read your sentence. not sure what you're going for. However maximum Attack investment is also plausible as a means to make better use of Talonflame's strong STABs. Gale Wings is preferred over Flame Body on maximum Attack Talonflame in order to make Brave Bird considerably more potent vs the Fighting types like Passimian. Talonflame must be fearful of Knock Off users or attackers who carry any sort of effective coverage versus Talonflame, as losing its Heavy-Duty Boots or switching into a Rock Slide or Stone Edge from Passimian or Virizion would like a different example since you already mentioned them, although you could also not specifically mention them in the overview too can be fatal. Talonflame is best suited on offensive teams relying on its supportive utility, offensive coverage, and blistering speed this sentence doesnt mean much, more specifically it is a useful revenge killer and checks stuff like whims and whatever. Teammates such as Virizion and Toxicroak greatly appreciate Talonflame's supportive capabilities. Talonflame loves both of the fighters Fighting-types, you really need to stop using slang in these analyses for the sake of GP who I am trying to help out here being able to handle all of the Rock types hyphenate (Rock-types) such as Regirock and Gigalith (especially because Sand Stream nullifies Gale Wings). Likewise, Talonflame also loves appreciates Virizion and Toxicroak for checking most of the Water types such as Vaporeon and Lanturn. On the other hand, they both appreciate Talonflame being able to bring them in safely on guaranteed switch-ins such as the aforementioned Lanturn, Vaporeon, and Gigalith via U-turn but also they enjoy Talonflame's ability to check cripple Silvally-Fairy with Will-O-Wisp. Heliolisk also makes a fantastic partner for completing a strong VoltTurn core. Its ability to handle Waters like Vaporeon and Jellicent is ideal since Talonflame naturally draws them in. Additionally, Heliolisk appreciates Talonflame's ability to offensively check several Fighting types including Toxicroak and Virizion.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Bag of Trixx, 467518]]
- Quality checked by: [UberSkitty, 355061], [username2, userid2]] my user ID is 202117
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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2/2 but be careful with implementing this, there's a lot to go over and clean up here
 

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[OVERVIEW]
Talonflame provides teams with unmatched utility thanks to its incredible Speed, solid typing, ability, and great support movepool allowing it to switch into a myriad of different threats like Ribombee and Whimsicott. Its typing and access to two powerful STAB moves also make it somewhat hard to switch into. However, Talonflame finds itself over reliant on Heavy-Duty Boots, and it can struggle to check Pokemon like Passimian and Virizion due to their coverage. Additionally, Talonflame isn't particularly bulky to begin with, (semicolon -> comma) so even some strong neutral attacks such as Toxicroak's Gunk Shot are still dangerous.

[SET]
name: Offensive Pivot
move 1: Brave Bird / Flare Blitz
move 2: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
move 3: Roost
move 4: U-turn / Defog
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Flame Body
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
This set portrays Talonflame's utility and team support options at its disposal in order to provide an excellent pivot onto various attackers. Brave Bird allows Talonflame to hit Fighting-types such as Passimian, although Flare Blitz is also considered for its ability to pressure Heliolisk and Steel-types better such as Silvally-Steel and Alolan Sandslash. Will-O-Wisp provides Talonflame with effective measures to cripple physical attackers such as Togedemaru and Archeops, whereas Toxic can be better suited at wearing down bulkier defensive counters like Gigalith, Regirock, Lanturn, and Vaporeon. U-turn is essential for granting Talonflame a path for offensive momentum, although Defog makes for a solid option. Teammates like Virizion and Toxicroak greatly appreciate Talonflame's supportive capabilities; it can bring them on the field against the various Rock- and Water-types it invites in like Gigalith, Regirock, Vaporeon, and Lanturn via U-turn. Talonflame can also switch into attackers that they struggle against such as Ribombee and Silvally-Fairy. Heliolisk also makes a fantastic partner for completing a strong VoltTurn core. Its ability to handle Water-types like Vaporeon and Jellicent is ideal, (AC) since Talonflame naturally draws them in. Additionally, Heliolisk appreciates Talonflame's ability to offensively check several Fighting-types including Toxicroak and Virizion.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Bag of Trixx, 467518]]
- Quality checked by: [UberSkitty, 355061], [MZ, 202117]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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