What about Block + Toxic for trapping things besides pex?
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What specifically would this be trapping that the other sets do not? You can do it, but it makes Toxapex much less valuable to not have Knock Off or Scald in match-ups where you cannot trap something directly.
Blissey? Slowbro?
You do not trap either of these though. Both run Teleport and can get out of it, so that seems pointless, especially with Blissey having Natural Cure or Slowbro having the ability to Regenerate off Toxic damage.
I must be confused. Block stops them from escaping via Teleport according to bulbapedia?
"Block prevents the target from switching out or fleeing (including via Teleport)."
Huh... so bulbapedia is wrong then. Interesting, thanks.
It does not, no.
No, Bulbapedia says it correctly. It says that you cannot escape in generations 3-4 with the move. However, if you go to the page for Teleport, you see that the move changes to avoid trapping in later generations.
Huh... so bulbapedia is wrong then. Interesting, thanks.
It does not, no.
hi, this is my last post on the topic, because its obviously a pretty trivial matter overall, but on the Teleport page on bulbapedia, it says teleport will succeed regardless of trapping moves... if the user is holding a smoke ball. (This listed under the Gen 6 change).
I'm very sorry if I'm missing something
Finch edit: it's fine -- no point dragging this out, but the LGPE/Gen8 text for Teleport implies it switches out
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spe
Bold Nature
or
EVs: 240 HP / 228 Def / 40 Spe
Timid Nature
Those are my suggestions.
I would almost definitely run at least 112 speed EVs with a Timid nature; this means that you get the jump on Obstagoon and Kyurem running non-speed boosting natures, Blaziken, Adamant Landorus, tank Garchomp, and a number of other options while also outrunning common Dragapult, Spectrier, and Zeraora at +1 no matter their nature and EV spread. Throw the rest into HP and PDef.
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Wait, now I'm confused after reading the recent discussion. What exactly is block Toxapex supposed to do in the first place?
I also have a couple questions of my own. Aside from Volcarona, that cancer inducing Magearna, Garchomp, Spectrier, pokemon with speed weather abilities like Excadrill and Dragonite, who are some other good sweepers that can consistently perform in ou?
And aside from Spectrier because this thing is hilarious, are choice scarf sweepers like Kartana also a good pick in this meta? If yes, who are some good scarf sweepers aside from Kartana?
I also have a couple questions of my own. Aside from Volcarona, that cancer inducing Magearna, Garchomp, Spectrier, pokemon with speed weather abilities like Excadrill and Dragonite, who are some other good sweepers that can consistently perform in ou?
And aside from Spectrier because this thing is hilarious, are choice scarf sweepers like Kartana also a good pick in this meta? If yes, who are some good scarf sweepers aside from Kartana?
PP Trap other Pex so a stall team can beat an opposing stall team.
You named the main ones others include Kartana, Rillaboom, Landorus-T, Tornadus-T are some for different reasons.
Well most scarf mons outside of Kartana are things like pivots/revenge killers such as Landorus-T, Magearna. They're not necessarily sweeping per say and it's more based on team composition.
Uhh so first time running AV slowbro and I have no idea what EVs to run on it. Help is needed
You're better off running Galarian Slowking or even regular Slowking if you want to run AV. Slowbro's best known for being a physically defensive pivot.
Well that was fast. Thanks finch
Is there there an updated OU speed tiers thread?
Perish trapping is a strategy (there's other moves with trapping effects that also work), but it's kinda niche and only works against passive mons. On top of that, there are three problems preventing it from seeing use.
- There are not a lot of Perish Song users.
- There are not a lot of OU viable perish song users.
- There are not a lot of OU viable perish song users that get trapping moves.
Also, trapping moves have always terminated when the user switches out, I don't think that was different at any point.
What are the pros and cons of Excadrill and Dracozolt in Gen 8 OU? What are the pros and cons of these two sand rushers? And more importantly, who is better in most situations?