RMT: Tusky Pig, Hairy Wolf, Flying Dog, Spiky Bird and Metal Egg


Mamoswine @ Life Orb
Adamant
[Snow Cloak]
64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Super Power

Great as an offensive Pokemon. Life Orb rather than Choice Band to be able to freely switch attacks. Ice Shard is for killing almost all dragons (except for Kingdra) and frail Pokemon like Gengar, depends on the amount of HP leftover. It can also freely switch into a Thunder Wave from Blissey and won't have to worry about getting paralyzed, forcing a switch and getting a free attack. Super Power is for Bronzong if necessary.


Suicune @ Leftovers
Bold
[Pressure]
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Calm Mind

Standard Calm Mind Suicune. Tanks well both ways after 1 or 2 Calm Minds for special attacks as well. Surf is for STAB and Ice Beam is are for Dragons and Vaporeon (only if it comes down to stall). Rest is for healing. Quite straightforward.


Gyarados @ Lum Berry
Jolly
[Intimidate]
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage

Physical Attacker + annoys Scizor quite a lot. Intimidate is very useful at times, too. Dragon Dance to boost speed and attack, then kill. Waterfall is 100% accuracy STAB, and Outrage is for killing strong Dragons, with Lum Berry curing the confusion or other status if that's more urgent.


Zapdos @ Choice Scarf
Timid
[Pressure]
24 HP / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Heat Wave
- Thunderbolt
- U-Turn

U-Turn is for scouting. STAB Thunderbolt can deal great damage to water types, namingly Gyarados. Given it the max speed possible, it should outrun a lot of things, even Yanmega with speed boost or Gyarados after 1 Dragon Dance. Heat Wave can kill Grass/Steels while HP [Ground] is for Heatran.




Skarm @ Leftovers ........................& ... Bliss @ Shed Shell
Impish ........................................ & ... Calm
[Keen Eye] .................................. & ... [Natural Heal]
248 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def / 4 Spe ... & ... 80 HP / 252 Def / 176 SpD
- Stealth Rock ............................. & ... - Aromatherapy
- Brave Bird ................................. & ... - Thunder Wave
- Roost ....................................... & ... - Seismic Toss
- Whirlwind .................................. & ... - Softboiled

Famous SkarmBliss duo... Skarmory for physical tanking; Blissey for special tanking. Roost and Softboiled heals Skarmory and Blissey, respectively. Skarmory can set up Stealth Rock when it has a chance, can whirlwind for SR damage and scout team if necessary, as well as tank Scizor + Whirlwind it away. Brave Bird is its STAB attack and only attack move. Blissey's Aromatherapy can cure Suicune's Rest, while Thunder Wave is for crippling the other team. Seismic Toss is the only form of offense useful for this thing without spending EV on either of its offenses.

So RMT! Thanks...
 
definitly lacks physical attackers. what are u gonna do after mamoswine dies? a blissey walls your whole team after that
 

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This is a pretty good team, except after your Mamoswine dies, your two main sweepers are both weak to stealth rock. Maybe a spinner would be good. Also, HP [Ice] probably isn't as good as Substitute on Skymin. The only thing it really hits is Salamence, who won't want to stay in after a -2 from Seed Flare.

@Shofu - not even Bliss likes -2 SpDef.
 
lol at the skarm bliss.
U really lack a physical threat in the later game unless u keep mamo alive. U could take out skymin cuz imo, its overrated but should be uber. Ive never used an ice move on it, and after Stealth rock damage, a +1 Bullet punch from a Scizor kills it i think. Try a DD Outrage Mence with the yache or a life orb. Look in the Contribution and Correction Section for the info.
 
I put a DD Outrage Gyara there instead, but has Lum Berry. Gyarados is SLIGHTLY more durable than Mence. Mamoswine can absorb electric attacks. Removed Skymin instead, and I made slight adjustments on the Blissey, making it CALM natured, plus giving it a better special defense-wise EV spread. As it's more frail now though... Should I put Shed Shell on Blissey for Dugtrio?

Gyarados of course counters Heatran as well. And I put EV's for Zapdos up.
 
I agree that HP Ice just isn't as good as Substitute on Shaymin-s, especially with how your current team is shaped. HP Ice is for Salamence, Zapdos, Skymin, and thats pretty much it. Salamence is 2hkoed by air slash anyway. skymin will die to air slash in one hit. that leaves zapdos. well, with mamoswine, suicune, blissey, and dd gyara, i think zapdos is easily covered. Sub lets you scout, take out blissey (could let you give off a seed flare or two and then air slash), and pretty much always gets you 2 attacks.

tbh, i never understood stone edge on mamoswine and i still dont. stealth rock on mamoswine and spikes on skarm is extremely helpful to a team that relies on weakened opponents and i really reccomend going through that course of action. stone edge does beat gyarados sometimes yes (although most of the time you lose anyway) but sr is always helpful. skarmory likes to spike anyway, as he has the defense and time to do so.

looks like a cool team, however, i dont like how you rely on a scarf zapdos as your only real counter to bulky waters, especially ones with hp ice. i might look into adding hp elc onto suicune if i were you. i dont see you using ice beam at all.
 
I love the Skarmbliss.

But going to the RMT, I noticed a pretty big skymin weakness. I think you should fit Scarftran or Scarftom-h over Zapdos.
 

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