Registeel (BaitSteel)

[Bluewind]

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/registeel

[SET]
name: BaitSteel
move 1: Curse
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion
move 4: Earthquake / Ice Punch / Counter
item: Occa Berry
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Despite being commonly seen as a defensive Pokemon, Registeel can make use of its average Attack and access to both Curse and Explosion to pose as a serious threat after a single turn of set-up. This set aims to abuse the aforementioned traits in order to act as a reliable defensive pivot, lure, and sweeper. When equipped with an Occa Berry, Registeel can draw in and remove its most common counters, such as Moltres and Arcanine, thus paving the way for one of its teammates to sweep. In the earlier stages of the match, this set is meant to be played just as the standard defensive set, acting as a special wall and check to the plethora of Normal-, Flying-, and Grass-types that roam the UU tier, such as Swellow, Scyther, and Leafeon; this is done in order to bait the opponent into a false sense of security. Once the opposing team has been sufficiently scouted for potential threats, Registeel can grab a boost with Curse and retaliate against the subsequent switch-in with the appropriate move.</p>

<p>Regarding the moveset, Iron Head acts as Registeel's always invaluable STAB, hitting both Ghost and Rock-types that like taking chances by switching into Registeel while expecting it to Explode, as well as Flying-types, without having to resort to Explosion. Speaking of Explosion, it's an amazing move that can cripple opposing walls like Milotic, and dispatch of Moltres and Donphan, both of which aren't hit for significant amounts of damage by any of Registeel's other moves. The choice for the last move is perhaps the most important part of this set, as it will determine how often this set will rely on taking a risk and using Explosion to defeat its counters. Earthquake is the preferred option, as it abuses Occa Berry to its fullest extent by taking care of Houndoom, Arcanine, and Blaziken. Ice Punch is another option if Registeel's main purpose is beating Torterra; however, it falls short of OHKOing bulkier versions, even after Stealth Rock damage. If neither of those options sound appealing, Counter is an interesting move that severely hurts Rhyperior, Donphan, and Torterra if they hit Registeel with Earthquake, but will be made useless if any of these Pokemon decide to use Roar or any sort of support move instead. Running a Chople Berry is another option if one's main objective is removing Fighting-types such as Hariyama, Hitmontop, and Toxicroak from play; however, none of these Pokemon can actually OHKO Registeel once it has grabbed a single Curse boost, meaning that it should only be used if Registeel's defensive capabilities are heavily relied upon by the user's team.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Because this set's main selling point is its ability to take many of Registeel's usual counters out of commission, pairing it with a Pokemon that can benefit from the removal of said threats is highly recommended. Swords Dance Venusaur makes a nifty partner, given the fact that many of its counters, such as Arcanine, Houndoom, and Moltres, are handily baited by Registeel. Absol is another great teammate, as not only does it benefit from the removal of bulky physical walls like Donphan, Torterra, and Arcanine, but it can also easily get past RestTalk Rotom, which completely shuts this set down.</p>

<p>Since this set does not have Leftovers, does not have any heavy investment in Special Defense, and has a frequency of having to Explode on the opponent, Registeel loses a considerable amount of its walling capabilities, which means that having secondary checks to the threats it's usually meant to counter is recommended. Specially defensive Arcanine makes a good partner due to its ability to beat most Grass-types and check Rotom, Mismagius, and Alakazam. Rhyperior can take care of most Flying-types of the tier, has the option of setting up Stealth Rock, and enjoys having both Torterra and Donphan removed from play.</p>

 

[Bluewind]

Ok, I believe this is ready for GP checks. If anyone is wondering, I have indeed changed the order on the last moveslot due to the reasons specified in the write-up, and because when I PMed some QC members most agreed that it was the adequate order (and Ice Punch doesn't beat Donphan as specified in RandomPizzaman's OP). I also apologize if this is somewhat hard for the GP team, as I have the feeling the write-up is odd, but really don't know how to fix it...

 

[Oglemi]

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[SET]
name: BaitSteel
move 1: Curse
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion
move 4: Earthquake / Ice Punch / Counter
item: Occa Berry
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Despite being commonly seen as a defensive Pokemon, with adequate investment, Registeel can make use of its average Attack and access to both Curse and Explosion to pose a serious threat after a single turn of setup. This set aims to abuse the aforementioned facts (there has to be a better word than facts, but I can't think of one) in order to act as a reliable defensive pivot, lure, and sweeper. ; while being capable of effectively luring and removing from play most of Registeel’s common counters When equipped with an Occa Berry, Registeel can lure in and remove its most common counters, such as Moltres and Arcanine, thus paving the way for a sweep for to one of its teammates.</p>

<p>On In the earlier stages of the match, this set is meant to be played just as the standard defensive set, acting as a special wall and check to the plethora of Normal-, Flying-, and Grass-types that roam the UU tier, such as Swellow, Scyther, and Leafeon; all in order to bait the opponent into a false sense of security. Once the opposing team has been sufficiently scouted for potential threats, Registeel can grab a boost with Curse and retaliate against the subsequent switch-in with the appropriate whatever move is more appropriate.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The choice of for the last move is perhaps the most important on this set, as it will determine how often this set will rely on risking to use Explosion to defeat its counters if it wants to defeat its counters. Earthquake is the preferred option, as it abuses Occa Berry to its fullest extent by taking care of Houndoom, Arcanine, and Blaziken. Ice Punch is another option if Registeel’s Registeel's (using the correct apostrophe) main purpose is beating Torterra; however, it , but falls short of OHKOing bulkier versions, even with Stealth Rock down. If neither of those options sound appealing, Counter is an interesting move that severely hurts Rhyperior, Donphan, and Torterra for high amounts of damage if they hit Registeel with Earthquake, but will be made useless if any of these Pokemon decide to use Roar or any sort of support move instead.</p>

<p>Because this set’s set's main selling point is its capability of taking many of Registeel’s Registeel's usual counters out of commission, pairing it to with a Pokemon that can benefit from the removal of said threats is highly recommended. Swords Dance Venusaur makes a nifty partner, given the fact many of its counters are handily baited by Registeel; namely Arcanine, Moltres, and Houndoom. Absol is another great teammate, as not only does it benefits from the removal of bulky physical walls such as Donphan, Torterra, and Arcanine, it can also ; but also can easily get past RestTalk Rotom, who completely shuts this set down.</p>

<p>It’s It's very important to note that without Leftovers, the loss of heavy investment on in Special Defense, and frequently frequency of having to Explode on the opponent, Registeel loses a considerable amount of its walling capabilities, which means having secondary checks to the threats it's usually meant to counter is recommended. Specially defensive Arcanine makes a good partner due to its ability of beating to beat most Grass-types and checking check Rotom, Mismagius, and Alakazam. Rhyperior can take care of most Flying-types on of the tier, has the option of setting up Stealth Rock, up and enjoys having both Torterra and Donphan removed from play.</p>

 

[Bluewind]

(Many) changes implemented, thanks Oglemi =)

 

[Oglemi]

Oh, another thing I forgot to add. Why no mention of Chople Berry? It seems like Regi could make use of it and then Explode on Hariyama or Hitmontop or Earthquake Toxicroak. It'd be a waste versus Hitmonlee and Primeape, but it's worth at least mentioning in AC.

 

[Bluewind]

Yeah I had considered Chople and Shuca before writing it up, but what mainly stopped me from doing so was that good part of them weren't acheving that much once Registeel got a Curse. Toxicroack, for example, would deal a maximum of 60%, and defensive Hitmontop did some laughable damage. The only situation in which a Chople Berry would help is against Guts Hariyama, who still fails to OHKO Registeel even with SR down (though it isn't likely that Registeel will have 93% of its HP by the time it sets up). I don't have huge beefs with adding it to AC, but the set's main charm was being able to take on Moltres, Magmortar, Houndoom, Blaziken and so on, kinda defeating the purpose of the set.

 

[Oglemi]

Well then, just add what you just told me into AC. That paragraph right there is basically what I was looking for. That Registeel doesn't need Shuca or Chople Berry because of Curse.

 

[Bluewind]

Added it (alongside 10 likely grammar mistakes).

 

[Snorlaxe]

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[SET]
name: BaitSteel
move 1: Curse
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion
move 4: Earthquake / Ice Punch / Counter
item: Occa Berry
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Despite being commonly seen as a defensive Pokemon, Registeel can make use of its average Attack and access to both Curse and Explosion to pose a serious threat after a single turn of setup. This set aims to abuse the aforementioned facts traits in order to act as a reliable defensive pivot, lure, and sweeper. When equipped with an Occa Berry, Registeel can lure draw in and remove its most common counters, such as Moltres and Arcanine, thus paving the way for a sweep for one of its teammates to sweep.</p>

<p>In the earlier stages of the match, this set is meant to be played just as the standard defensive set, acting as a special wall and check to the plethora of Normal-, Flying-, and Grass-types that roam the UU tier, such as Swellow, Scyther, and Leafeon; all this is done in order to bait the opponent into a false sense of security. Once the opposing team has been sufficiently scouted for potential threats, Registeel can grab a boost with Curse and retaliate against the subsequent switch-in with the appropriate move.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The choice for the last move is perhaps the most important on this set, as it will determine how often this set will rely on risking to use taking a risk and using Explosion to defeat its counters. Earthquake is the preferred option, as it abuses Occa Berry to its fullest extent by taking care of Houndoom, Arcanine, and Blaziken. Ice Punch is another option if Registeel's main purpose is beating Torterra; however, it falls short of OHKOing bulkier versions, even with after Stealth Rock down damage. If neither of those options sound appealing, Counter is an interesting move that severely hurts Rhyperior, Donphan, and Torterra for high amounts of damage if they hit Registeel with Earthquake, but will be made useless if any of these Pokemon decide to use Roar or any sort of support move instead. Running a Chople Berry is another option if one's main objective is removing Fighting-types such as Hariyama, Hitmontop, and Toxicroack from play; however, none of these Pokemon can actually OHKO Registeel once it has grabbed a single Curse boost, meaning it should only be used if Registeel's defensive capabilities are heavily relied upon by your team.</p>

<p>Because this set's main selling point is its capability of ability to take taking many of Registeel's usual counters out of commission, pairing it with a Pokemon that can benefit from the removal of said threats is highly recommended. Swords Dance Venusaur makes a nifty partner, given the fact many of its counters, such as Arcanine, Moltres, and Houndoom, are handily baited by Registeel; namely Arcanine, Moltres, and Houndoom. Registeel. Absol is another great teammate, as not only does it benefit from the removal of bulky physical walls such as like Donphan, Torterra, and Arcanine, it also can easily get past RestTalk Rotom, who completely shuts this set down.</p>

<p>It's very important to note that without Leftovers, the loss of heavy investment in Special Defense, and frequency of having to explode on the opponent, Registeel loses a considerable amount of its walling capabilities, which means having secondary checks to the threats it's usually meant to counter is recommended. Specially defensive Arcanine makes a good partner due to its ability to beat most Grass-types and check Rotom, Mismagius, and Alakazam. Rhyperior can take care of most Flying-types of the tier, has the option of setting up Stealth Rock, and enjoys having both Torterra and Donphan removed from play.</p>

cool beans

 

[Bluewind]

Applied the changes, thanks Snorlaxe =)

 

[Flora]

A little nitpick: at the end of Set Comment's second paragraph, you should explain Iron Head, Explosion, and Earthquake (which should be moved from AC to SC as it is the main fourth option) as they are the "appropriate move" but when/how? As such, AC's first paragraph will need some changes to reflect this (like instead of saying the choices, say alternatives).

 

[Bluewind]

Yeah, that occured me as I wrote the set but I was afraid of sounding redundant. I tried to emphatize Explosion as much as I could throughout the write-up by promoting it as an "oh shit button that defeats counters", which it actually is. Iron Head sounded obvious due to STAB and the last moveslot was explained on the first AC paragraph. Maybe if I move said paragraph to SC and try to fit Iron Head somewhere on the second paragraph it's enough?

 

[Flora]

Yeah, go ahead and try that out.

 

[Bluewind]

Ok, I've editted the write-up; hopefully it's good to go now.

 

[Flora]

GP Check: 2/2
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[SET]
name: BaitSteel
move 1: Curse
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion
move 4: Earthquake / Ice Punch / Counter
item: Occa Berry
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Despite being commonly seen as a defensive Pokemon, Registeel can make use of its average Attack and access to both Curse and Explosion to pose as a serious threat after a single turn of set-up. This set aims to abuse the aforementioned traits in order to act as a reliable defensive pivot, lure, and sweeper. When equipped with an Occa Berry, Registeel can draw in and remove its most common counters, such as Moltres and Arcanine, thus paving the way for one of its teammates to sweep. In the earlier stages of the match, this set is meant to be played just as the standard defensive set, acting as a special wall and check to the plethora of Normal-, Flying-, and Grass-types that roam the UU tier, such as Swellow, Scyther, and Leafeon; this is done in order to bait the opponent into a false sense of security. Once the opposing team has been sufficiently scouted for potential threats, Registeel can grab a boost with Curse and retaliate against the subsequent switch-in with the appropriate move.</p>

<p>In the earlier stages of the match, this set is meant to be played just as the standard defensive set, acting as a special wall and check to the plethora of Normal-, Flying-, and Grass-types that roam the UU tier, such as Swellow, Scyther, and Leafeon; this is done in order to bait the opponent into a false sense of security. Once the opposing team has been sufficiently scouted for potential threats, Registeel can grab a boost with Curse and retaliate against the subsequent switch-in with the appropriate move.</p>

(Probably best to merge it with above.)

<p>Regarding the moveset, Iron Head acts as Registeel's always invaluable STAB, hitting both levitating (I know what you mean, but even with the comma, it feels like it's referring to Rock-types as well, unless you want to refer to Solrock/Lunatone then okay, capitalize it. The stop in the middle kinda ruins it too. But, since the only Levitating Ghost really affected by Iron Head is Mismagius, maybe just Ghost by itself is okay.) Ghost-, (remove comma) and Rock-types that like taking chances by switching into Registeel while expecting it to Explode, as well as Flying-types without having to resort to Explosion. Speaking of Explosion, it's an amazing move to that can cripple opposing walls like Milotic, and dispatch of Moltres and Donphan, both of which aren't hit for significant amounts of damage by any of Registeel's other moves. The choice for the last move is perhaps the most important part on of this set, as it will determine how often this set will rely on taking a risk and using Explosion to defeat its counters. Earthquake is the preferred option, as it abuses Occa Berry to its fullest extent by taking care of Houndoom, Arcanine, and Blaziken. Ice Punch is another option if Registeel's main purpose is beating Torterra; however, it falls short of OHKOing bulkier versions, even after Stealth Rock damage. If neither of those options sound appealing, Counter is an interesting move that severely hurts Rhyperior, Donphan, and Torterra if they hit Registeel with Earthquake, but will be made useless if any of these Pokemon decide to use Roar or any sort of support move instead. Running a Chople Berry is another option if one's main objective is removing Fighting-types such as Hariyama, Hitmontop, and Toxicroack from play; however, none of these Pokemon can actually OHKO Registeel once it has grabbed a single Curse boost, meaning that it should only be used if Registeel's defensive capabilities are heavily relied upon by the user's team.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Because this set's main selling point is its ability to take many of Registeel's usual counters out of commission, pairing it with a Pokemon that can benefit from the removal of said threats is highly recommended. Swords Dance Venusaur makes a nifty partner, given the fact that many of its counters, such as Arcanine, Houndoom, and Moltres, (comma) are handily baited by Registeel. Absol is another great teammate, as not only does it benefit from the removal of bulky physical walls like Donphan, Torterra, and Arcanine, but it also can also easily get past RestTalk Rotom, who which completely shuts this set down.</p>

<p>It's very important to note that without Leftovers, the loss of heavy investment in Special Defense, and frequency of having to explode on the opponent, (Got confusing no matter how much times I tried to fix it.) Since this set does not have Leftovers, does not have any heavy investment in Special Defense, and has a frequency of having to Explode on the opponent, Registeel loses a considerable amount of its walling capabilities, which means that having secondary checks to the threats it's usually meant to counter is recommended. Specially defensive Arcanine makes a good partner due to its ability to beat most Grass-types and check Rotom, Mismagius, and Alakazam. Rhyperior can take care of most Flying-types of the tier, has the option of setting up Stealth Rock, and enjoys having both Torterra and Donphan removed from play.</p>

This is pretty nice. Some minor concerns, but fine overall.

 

[Bluewind]

Many thanks for the check Flora. On the Levitate matter, I did try to refer only to Ghost-types, because Solrock and Lunatone aren't nearly as common as Rotom and Mismagius do; but Dusclops isn't either so I guess it's fine leaving it that way. Thanks again for the checks guys. This is ready for upload!

Edit: Fixed Toxicroak, but regarding the grammar change I'm not sure if I should change it for now, so I'll just wait for some feedback.

 

[YaM]

Second Paragraph of Set Comments: it's Toxicroak not Toxicroack

Also, I think this sounds better:

Since this set does not have Leftovers or, does not have any heavy investment in Special Defense, and has a frequency of having to Explode on the opponent

 

[Oglemi]

Good job with this.

@YaM, I didn't change that because the way it is written now, it puts emphasis on what this Registeel doesn't have through repetition, and it also flows just fine.

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