Pichu (Analysis) [QC 2/2]

Pichu has not ever worked for me in Little Cup, even when doing "LC UU".

I'm going to have to test this again, but I'm likely going to reject it.
 

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I'm going to have to agree with Heysup here. The Life Orb / Choice sets are TOTALLY outclassed by Elekid. The only thing you really have is Fake Out, and tons of stuff outclasses that. This also needs more in the Counters section.

EDIT: The Team Options section also needs a revamp. "Onix" and "Omanyte" for Spikes and SR is not really a good idea, try "Stealth Rock set-up users such as..." (don't say Onix)
 

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You seriously need to make some improvements if you want this to get stamped. First, you are missing an Optional Changes section, which should probably included Nasty Plot and Choice Specs. Second, Grass Knot is far more reliable and probably does more damage to most Rock-types than Iron Tail. Third, the Counters section needs to be expanded to include names of Pokemon. "Anything" is not true, since I don't think Mantyke will be wanting to switch into Pichu any time soon. Fourth, don't say Pichu is an underrated threat. Rather, it is a very outclassed threat. Elekid and Electrike do everything Pichu can do better, aside from maybe the Lead just because Pichu has Encore. And finally, your set comments overall need a bit more expanding in some parts, such as why Thunderbolt is better than ThunderPunch on the Life Orb set.

If you make those changes and everything looks good, I'll stamp it. Otherwise it gets a no from me. Also, Bronzor is better at setting up Stealth Rock than Onix, since Levitate makes it immune to Pichu's only weakness.
 
I need to echo heysup here, sorry. Pichu is in almost every way a slower, frailer Elekid. Elekid really only works because of its speed, so Pichu can't even hope to fill that role. In all honesty I would probably list just a Scarf set and a Substitute set similar to the Mix set you already have (maybe), and something about Fake Out and Nasty Plot and all Pichu's other niche options in OC.

Along with that I'm also going to echo that Team Options and Counters could probably be redone.

This could probably be a fun joke analysis to write like Luvdisc or w/e. :( EDIT- too bad we arent allowed to do those ?_?
 
I wanted to make this a joke analysis as well but I realised I can't... oh well. I have already redone the Team Options and Counters sections of the analysis. What else is there to change about them? Thanks everyone.
 
Your additional comments section seems a little rediculous, please remove it.

"Pichu appreciates any sort of status ailment on the opponent’s Pokemon, especially paralysis, sleep and freeze." - Who doesn't?

"Also benefits from entry hazards such as Stealth Rock." - Pretty much same point as before...

Please only list points that help us understand why we should use this pokemon and how to do so. Refrain from posting information for the sake of filling space.

I also suggest that on your lead set, you remove Protect / Encore and replace it with another move to provide more coverage than just a Thunderbolt, because if your opponent leads with an Electric resists and attacks you, you are basically powerless and unable to retaliate, and therefore lose to that lead.

For your choice'd set, I suggest you slash Volt Tackle and Thunderpunch together, with Volt Tackle being the main slash, as you don't need two moves of the same type. Replace the missing move with Toxic, therefore, you can use those two to cripple the opposing pokemon and force him to switch out, or stay in and get KOed easily.
 
"Pichu appreciates any sort of status ailment on the opponent’s Pokemon, especially paralysis, sleep and freeze." - Who doesn't?
Well, Paralysis greatly helps with Pichu's speed problem. Pokemon with higher speed stats can easily defeat the opponent without the help from status ailments.

"Also benefits from entry hazards such as Stealth Rock." - Pretty much same point as before...
I understand, but not every Pokemon appreciates the damage as much as Pichu since its attacking power is quite, if not useless, minimal.

As for your suggestion for the lead set, Protect / Encore is to stall for more time. I can't afford to put another move there.

As for the choice'd set, putting Toxic there will defeat the purpose of the choice item. But I guess you have a point there, since the attacking power of Pichu is low anyway. I'll slash it into the set. Thanks for your suggestions Belphagor!
 
"Pichu appreciates any sort of status ailment on the opponent’s Pokemon, especially paralysis, sleep and freeze." - Who doesn't?
Well, Paralysis greatly helps with Pichu's speed problem. Pokemon with higher speed stats can easily defeat the opponent without the help from status ailments.

"Also benefits from entry hazards such as Stealth Rock." - Pretty much same point as before...
I understand, but not every Pokemon appreciates the damage as much as Pichu since its attacking power is quite, if not useless, minimal.

As for your suggestion for the lead set, Protect / Encore is to stall for more time. I can't afford to put another move there.

As for the choice'd set, putting Toxic there will defeat the purpose of the choice item. But I guess you have a point there, since the attacking power of Pichu is low anyway. I'll slash it into the set. Thanks for your suggestions Belphagor!
Then again, in the paralysis, who doesn't benefit from more speed? And if Pichu is being used offensively and offensively, it's "Useless", then why should we use it?
 
Then again, in the paralysis, who doesn't benefit from more speed? And if Pichu is being used offensively and offensively, it's "Useless", then why should we use it?
I said 'if not', not 'it is'. Please read carefully. Pichu's speed is still quite low compared to others when not using a Choice Scarf. Also, if Pichu is not faster than the opponents, the chances of Pichu winning is extremely low. Thus Pichu appreciates paralysis much more than others in the tier.
 
Why should we use a pokemon that needs so much support to function well, we could be much better off using Elekid who has much better stats and similar moves. Without paralysis, which non of your Pichu sets guarantee to provide, Pichu's winning probability is indeed extremely low, therefore, is it really worth using this pokemon when chances are it's going to be a sacrifice?
 
Why should we use a pokemon that needs so much support to function well, we could be much better off using Elekid who has much better stats and similar moves. Without paralysis, which non of your Pichu sets guarantee to provide, Pichu's winning probability is indeed extremely low, therefore, is it really worth using this pokemon when chances are it's going to be a sacrifice?
Maybe it's cute? People use different Pokemon for their own purposes. As for your point about support, you are correct, as Elekid does outclass Pichu. But Pichu is not supposed to provide the paralysis, it switches into status ailments. But you are right in many ways, I don't have a retaliation to your other points.
 
I tested all of these sets. I didn't enjoy any of them. I couldn't even get Pichu in on anything because it has no useful resistances and it has horrible hp and defensive stats. The only set that was moderately useful in my opinion is an Annoyer Set that I put together, although it still wasn't that useful.

[SET]
name: Annoyer
move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Teeter Dance
move 3: Encore/Protect
move 4: Substitute/Wish/Thunderbolt
Nature: Timid
Item: Oran Berry/Life Orb (with Thunderbolt)
EVS 196 HP/ 76 SpDef/196 Spe or 36 Hp/236 SpAtk/196 Spe

Switch in on something like Stealth Rock, Encore it, and then Thunderwave on the switch, then Teeter Dance and hope that it doesn't break through Parafusion. Then Wish or Sub up to be even more annoying. You can also opt to use Thunderbolt instead to try and dent things a little. You can use Protect with Substitute to be annoying. Pichu won't do much damage, but it'll be a pain in the ass to take out.

Let me say this again: Pichu sucks at everything.
 
Why should we use a pokemon that needs so much support to function well, we could be much better off using Elekid who has much better stats and similar moves. Without paralysis, which non of your Pichu sets guarantee to provide, Pichu's winning probability is indeed extremely low, therefore, is it really worth using this pokemon when chances are it's going to be a sacrifice?
Elekid doesn't exactly need paralysis support.

*lightbulb*

Substitute+Encore Pichu @ Life Orb (Sub/Encore/Volt Tackle/Return). No other electric type has Encore, so Pichu isn't outclassed. Pichu can also come in and Encore slow set-up moves, since they're paralyzed and stuff.

It could probably replace the regular LO set, since it's actually not outclassed by anything, unlike the the current set.
 
But by running that, you'll need a good teammate to setup the paralysis, and that means Pichu can at most take down one pokemon, if not less, before it is rendered useless, I'm not sure I really need the handicap of one pokemon that needs so much extra support before it can even use it's promised functions.

Also, could I please have a list of what these sets COULD ideally counter please?

Will test this and give in results in a timely manner.
 
Ok, as promised, here are the choice'd logs


Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Self-KO Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Darkamber8828 sent out Dratini (lvl 5 Dratini ?).
Belphagor sent out Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Hail began to fall!
Belphagor switched in Ponyta (lvl 5 Ponyta ?).
Dratini used Fire Blast.
Ponyta's Flash Fire raised its fire power!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: some logs of it sucking?
Belphagor: No
Belphagor: Consecutive logs
Ponyta used Flare Blitz.
It's not very effective...
Dratini lost 86% of its health.
Ponyta was hit by recoil!
Ponyta lost 27% of its health.
Dratini used Draco Meteor.
Ponyta lost 68% of its health.
Belphagor's Ponyta fainted.
Dratini's special attack was harshly lowered.
Ponyta's Oran Berry restored health!
The hail continues to fall.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: ...oh
Belphagor switched in Eevee (lvl 5 Eevee ?).
Eevee used Quick Attack.
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Dratini fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Eevee is pelted by hail!
Eevee lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Machop (lvl 5 Machop ?).
Eevee used Quick Attack.
Machop lost 62% of its health.
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
It's super effective!
Eevee lost 95% of its health.
Belphagor's Eevee fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Snover used Blizzard.
Machop lost 33% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Machop fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Wynaut (lvl 5 Wynaut ?).
Snover used Blizzard.
Wynaut lost 81% of its health.
Wynaut's Oran Berry restored health!
Wynaut restored 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Mirror Coat.
Snover lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Snover fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
Wynaut used Encore.
Bagon got an encore!
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: yeaaaaah!
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Nosepass (lvl 5 Nosepass ?).
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Nosepass lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Nosepass fainted.
Nosepass's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Gligar used Earthquake.
Bagon lost 90% of its health.
Belphagor's Bagon fainted.
Bagon's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: gg.
Belphagor switched in Pichu (lvl 5 Pichu ?).
Belphagor: No wait
Belphagor: The important part
Darkamber8828: it's scarfed?
Pichu used Return.
Gligar lost 30% of its health.
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Pichu lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Pichu fainted.

Gligar lost 9% of its health.
Darkamber8828 wins!
Darkamber8828: ...
Belphagor: Ok
Belphagor: Part of the proof
Darkamber8828: volt tackle
Darkamber8828: return
Darkamber8828: ?
Darkamber8828: tbolt/hp ice?


Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Self-KO Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Darkamber8828 sent out Dratini (lvl 5 Dratini ?).
Belphagor sent out Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Hail began to fall!
Darkamber8828: ...
Belphagor: ...
Darkamber8828: why not tbolt/hp ice?
Darkamber8828: pichu doesn't have bulk
Belphagor: Apparently it's a physical Pichu
Dark Ray has entered the room.
Belphagor: Look
Belphagor: It's not mine
Darkamber8828: and it can't go m-
Darkamber8828: is there a point testing a set that you know is outclassed?
Darkamber8828: like
Belphagor: I know
Darkamber8828: specs luvdisc
Belphagor: But he won't believe it
Darkamber8828: in infinite rain?
Belphagor: LOL
Snover used Blizzard.
It's super effective!
Dratini lost 100% of its health.
Dratini hung on using its Focus Sash!
Dratini used Draco Meteor.
Snover lost 87% of its health.
Dratini's special attack was harshly lowered.
The hail continues to fall.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Dratini fainted.
---
Darkamber8828: AH FUCK
Darkamber8828: PREDICTION FAIL
Darkamber8828 switched in Stunky (lvl 5 Stunky ?).
Dark Ray has left the room.
Belphagor: Continuous prediction is the key to success
Stunky used Sucker Punch.
Snover lost 12% of its health.
Belphagor's Snover fainted.
Stunky lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Stunky is pelted by hail!
Stunky lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: prediction win
Belphagor switched in Nosepass (lvl 5 Nosepass ?).
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Nosepass used Thunder Wave.
It doesn't affect Gligar...
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
Nosepass is pelted by hail!
Nosepass lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: prediction win
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Nosepass lost 95% of its health.
Belphagor's Nosepass fainted.
Nosepass's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Gligar used Earthquake.
Bagon lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Bagon fainted.
Bagon's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Eevee (lvl 5 Eevee ?).
Darkamber8828 switched in Carvanha (lvl 5 Carvanha ?).
Eevee used Return.
Carvanha lost 100% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Carvanha fainted.
Eevee was hurt by Carvanha's Rough Skin!
Eevee lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Eevee is pelted by hail!
Eevee lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Machop (lvl 5 Machop ?).
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
It's super effective!
Eevee lost 86% of its health.
Belphagor's Eevee fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Pichu (lvl 5 Pichu ?).
Pichu used Volt Tackle.
Machop lost 75% of its health.
Pichu was hit by recoil!
Pichu lost 30% of its health.
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
Pichu lost 70% of its health.
Belphagor's Pichu fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
---

Darkamber8828: ...ow
Belphagor switched in Ponyta (lvl 5 Ponyta ?).
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
Ponyta lost 77% of its health.
Ponyta became confused!
Ponyta's Oran Berry restored health!
Ponyta restored 45% of its health.
Ponyta is confused!
Ponyta used Flame Wheel.
Machop lost 17% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Machop fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: weakchop
Darkamber8828 switched in Wynaut (lvl 5 Wynaut ?).
Ponyta is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Ponyta lost 23% of its health.
Wynaut used Encore.
But it failed!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: anyway, gg.
Ponyta is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Ponyta lost 23% of its health.
Wynaut used Encore.
But it failed!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor: gg
Ponyta is confused!
Ponyta used Flame Wheel.
Wynaut lost 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Encore.
Ponyta got an encore!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Ponyta snapped out of confusion!
Ponyta used Flame Wheel.
Wynaut lost 37% of its health.
Wynaut's Oran Berry restored health!
Wynaut restored 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Counter.
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Belphagor's Ponyta fainted.
Darkamber8828 wins!
Darkamber8828 has left the room.


Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Self-KO Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Darkamber8828 sent out Dratini (lvl 5 Dratini ?).
Belphagor sent out Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Hail began to fall!
Snover used Blizzard.
It's super effective!
Dratini lost 100% of its health.
Dratini hung on using its Focus Sash!
Dratini used Fire Blast.
It's super effective!
Snover lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Snover fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Dratini fainted.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Belphagor switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Darkamber8828: go water type!
Darkamber8828: ...ok
Gligar used Stone Edge.
Gligar lost 39% of its health.
Gligar used Aqua Tail.
It's super effective!
Gligar lost 87% of its health.
Gligar's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar restored 43% of its health.
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Machop (lvl 5 Machop ?).
Gligar used Stone Edge.
It's not very effective...
Machop lost 25% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
It's not very effective...
Gligar lost 30% of its health.
Gligar became confused!
Gligar is confused!
Gligar used Earthquake.
Machop lost 71% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Machop fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: hax failure
Darkamber8828 switched in Carvanha (lvl 5 Carvanha ?).
Belphagor switched in Pichu (lvl 5 Pichu ?).
Carvanha used Aqua Jet.
Pichu lost 75% of its health.
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Pichu is pelted by hail!
Pichu lost 5% of its health.
Carvanha is pelted by hail!
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
---
Carvanha used Aqua Jet.
Pichu lost 20% of its health.
Belphagor's Pichu fainted.
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Carvanha is pelted by hail!
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Eevee (lvl 5 Eevee ?).
Carvanha used Aqua Jet.
A critical hit!
Eevee lost 91% of its health.
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
Eevee used Quick Attack.
Carvanha lost 74% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Carvanha fainted.
Eevee was hurt by Carvanha's Rough Skin!
Eevee lost 9% of its health.
Belphagor's Eevee fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
---
Darkamber8828: damn
Darkamber8828: sorry
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Belphagor switched in Nosepass (lvl 5 Nosepass ?).
Belphagor: It's okay
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Nosepass lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Nosepass fainted.
Nosepass's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Gligar used Stone Edge.
Gligar lost 35% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Gligar fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Wynaut (lvl 5 Wynaut ?).
Belphagor: YES
Darkamber8828: yes?
Gligar used Earthquake.
Wynaut lost 56% of its health.
Wynaut's Oran Berry restored health!
Wynaut restored 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Counter.
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
Belphagor's Gligar fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: also
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Darkamber8828: counterteamming isn't cool man
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
Wynaut used Encore.
Bagon got an encore!
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: gg.
Belphagor: This team originally had a Gligar on it
Darkamber8828 switched in Stunky (lvl 5 Stunky ?).
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Stunky is pelted by hail!
Stunky lost 4% of its health.
---
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
Stunky used Crunch.
Bagon lost 90% of its health.
Belphagor's Bagon fainted.
Bagon's Oran Berry restored health!
Stunky lost 9% of its health.
Darkamber8828 wins!
Belphagor: gg
Darkamber8828: cya
Darkamber8828 has left the room.


Note in all these logs, Pichu is OHKOed.
 
@ ShinyAzelf, although Aqua Jet was indeed a 2HKO, my mistake, Aqua Jet is a 40 base power priority move, and it did 75%, rather disappointing.

Also, I know it was a noob mistake to switch into Carvanha, however, it's impossible to switch into anything at all. After all, anything with a base power of >40 kills it.
 
If you used one of the Encore sets (either the Annoyer or the Life orb encore) you could have switched into boosting moves or supporting moves and encored them.
 
But all that does is force a switch, and Pichu's attacks won't do a lot to the switch-in. So I still can't see the Pichu working.
 
Elekid doesn't exactly need paralysis support.

*lightbulb*

Substitute+Encore Pichu @ Life Orb (Sub/Encore/Volt Tackle/Return). No other electric type has Encore, so Pichu isn't outclassed. Pichu can also come in and Encore slow set-up moves, since they're paralyzed and stuff.

It could probably replace the regular LO set, since it's actually not outclassed by anything, unlike the the current set.
Actually, that's a really good idea! Thanks Darkamber I'll edit it.
 
Ok, as promised, here are the choice'd logs


Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Self-KO Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Darkamber8828 sent out Dratini (lvl 5 Dratini ?).
Belphagor sent out Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Hail began to fall!
Belphagor switched in Ponyta (lvl 5 Ponyta ?).
Dratini used Fire Blast.
Ponyta's Flash Fire raised its fire power!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: some logs of it sucking?
Belphagor: No
Belphagor: Consecutive logs
Ponyta used Flare Blitz.
It's not very effective...
Dratini lost 86% of its health.
Ponyta was hit by recoil!
Ponyta lost 27% of its health.
Dratini used Draco Meteor.
Ponyta lost 68% of its health.
Belphagor's Ponyta fainted.
Dratini's special attack was harshly lowered.
Ponyta's Oran Berry restored health!
The hail continues to fall.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: ...oh
Belphagor switched in Eevee (lvl 5 Eevee ?).
Eevee used Quick Attack.
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Dratini fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Eevee is pelted by hail!
Eevee lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Machop (lvl 5 Machop ?).
Eevee used Quick Attack.
Machop lost 62% of its health.
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
It's super effective!
Eevee lost 95% of its health.
Belphagor's Eevee fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Snover used Blizzard.
Machop lost 33% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Machop fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Wynaut (lvl 5 Wynaut ?).
Snover used Blizzard.
Wynaut lost 81% of its health.
Wynaut's Oran Berry restored health!
Wynaut restored 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Mirror Coat.
Snover lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Snover fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
Wynaut used Encore.
Bagon got an encore!
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: yeaaaaah!
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Nosepass (lvl 5 Nosepass ?).
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Nosepass lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Nosepass fainted.
Nosepass's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Gligar used Earthquake.
Bagon lost 90% of its health.
Belphagor's Bagon fainted.
Bagon's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: gg.
Belphagor switched in Pichu (lvl 5 Pichu ?).
Belphagor: No wait
Belphagor: The important part
Darkamber8828: it's scarfed?
Pichu used Return.
Gligar lost 30% of its health.
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Pichu lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Pichu fainted.

Gligar lost 9% of its health.
Darkamber8828 wins!
Darkamber8828: ...
Belphagor: Ok
Belphagor: Part of the proof
Darkamber8828: volt tackle
Darkamber8828: return
Darkamber8828: ?
Darkamber8828: tbolt/hp ice?


Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Self-KO Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Darkamber8828 sent out Dratini (lvl 5 Dratini ?).
Belphagor sent out Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Hail began to fall!
Darkamber8828: ...
Belphagor: ...
Darkamber8828: why not tbolt/hp ice?
Darkamber8828: pichu doesn't have bulk
Belphagor: Apparently it's a physical Pichu
Dark Ray has entered the room.
Belphagor: Look
Belphagor: It's not mine
Darkamber8828: and it can't go m-
Darkamber8828: is there a point testing a set that you know is outclassed?
Darkamber8828: like
Belphagor: I know
Darkamber8828: specs luvdisc
Belphagor: But he won't believe it
Darkamber8828: in infinite rain?
Belphagor: LOL
Snover used Blizzard.
It's super effective!
Dratini lost 100% of its health.
Dratini hung on using its Focus Sash!
Dratini used Draco Meteor.
Snover lost 87% of its health.
Dratini's special attack was harshly lowered.
The hail continues to fall.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Dratini fainted.
---
Darkamber8828: AH FUCK
Darkamber8828: PREDICTION FAIL
Darkamber8828 switched in Stunky (lvl 5 Stunky ?).
Dark Ray has left the room.
Belphagor: Continuous prediction is the key to success
Stunky used Sucker Punch.
Snover lost 12% of its health.
Belphagor's Snover fainted.
Stunky lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Stunky is pelted by hail!
Stunky lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: prediction win
Belphagor switched in Nosepass (lvl 5 Nosepass ?).
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Nosepass used Thunder Wave.
It doesn't affect Gligar...
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
Nosepass is pelted by hail!
Nosepass lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: prediction win
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Nosepass lost 95% of its health.
Belphagor's Nosepass fainted.
Nosepass's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Gligar used Earthquake.
Bagon lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Bagon fainted.
Bagon's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Eevee (lvl 5 Eevee ?).
Darkamber8828 switched in Carvanha (lvl 5 Carvanha ?).
Eevee used Return.
Carvanha lost 100% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Carvanha fainted.
Eevee was hurt by Carvanha's Rough Skin!
Eevee lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Eevee is pelted by hail!
Eevee lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Machop (lvl 5 Machop ?).
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
It's super effective!
Eevee lost 86% of its health.
Belphagor's Eevee fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Pichu (lvl 5 Pichu ?).
Pichu used Volt Tackle.
Machop lost 75% of its health.
Pichu was hit by recoil!
Pichu lost 30% of its health.
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
Pichu lost 70% of its health.
Belphagor's Pichu fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
---

Darkamber8828: ...ow
Belphagor switched in Ponyta (lvl 5 Ponyta ?).
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
Ponyta lost 77% of its health.
Ponyta became confused!
Ponyta's Oran Berry restored health!
Ponyta restored 45% of its health.
Ponyta is confused!
Ponyta used Flame Wheel.
Machop lost 17% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Machop fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: weakchop
Darkamber8828 switched in Wynaut (lvl 5 Wynaut ?).
Ponyta is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Ponyta lost 23% of its health.
Wynaut used Encore.
But it failed!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: anyway, gg.
Ponyta is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Ponyta lost 23% of its health.
Wynaut used Encore.
But it failed!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor: gg
Ponyta is confused!
Ponyta used Flame Wheel.
Wynaut lost 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Encore.
Ponyta got an encore!
The hail continues to fall.
Ponyta is pelted by hail!
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Ponyta snapped out of confusion!
Ponyta used Flame Wheel.
Wynaut lost 37% of its health.
Wynaut's Oran Berry restored health!
Wynaut restored 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Counter.
Ponyta lost 5% of its health.
Belphagor's Ponyta fainted.
Darkamber8828 wins!
Darkamber8828 has left the room.


Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Self-KO Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Darkamber8828 sent out Dratini (lvl 5 Dratini ?).
Belphagor sent out Snover (lvl 5 Snover ?).
Snover's Snow Warning whipped up a hailstorm!
Hail began to fall!
Snover used Blizzard.
It's super effective!
Dratini lost 100% of its health.
Dratini hung on using its Focus Sash!
Dratini used Fire Blast.
It's super effective!
Snover lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Snover fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Dratini is pelted by hail!
Dratini lost 5% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Dratini fainted.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Belphagor switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Darkamber8828: go water type!
Darkamber8828: ...ok
Gligar used Stone Edge.
Gligar lost 39% of its health.
Gligar used Aqua Tail.
It's super effective!
Gligar lost 87% of its health.
Gligar's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar restored 43% of its health.
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Machop (lvl 5 Machop ?).
Gligar used Stone Edge.
It's not very effective...
Machop lost 25% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Machop is pelted by hail!
Machop lost 4% of its health.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Machop used Dynamicpunch.
It's not very effective...
Gligar lost 30% of its health.
Gligar became confused!
Gligar is confused!
Gligar used Earthquake.
Machop lost 71% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Machop fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: hax failure
Darkamber8828 switched in Carvanha (lvl 5 Carvanha ?).
Belphagor switched in Pichu (lvl 5 Pichu ?).
Carvanha used Aqua Jet.
Pichu lost 75% of its health.
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Pichu is pelted by hail!
Pichu lost 5% of its health.
Carvanha is pelted by hail!
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
---
Carvanha used Aqua Jet.
Pichu lost 20% of its health.
Belphagor's Pichu fainted.
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Carvanha is pelted by hail!
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Eevee (lvl 5 Eevee ?).
Carvanha used Aqua Jet.
A critical hit!
Eevee lost 91% of its health.
Carvanha lost 5% of its health.
Eevee used Quick Attack.
Carvanha lost 74% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Carvanha fainted.
Eevee was hurt by Carvanha's Rough Skin!
Eevee lost 9% of its health.
Belphagor's Eevee fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
---
Darkamber8828: damn
Darkamber8828: sorry
Darkamber8828 switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Belphagor switched in Nosepass (lvl 5 Nosepass ?).
Belphagor: It's okay
Gligar used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Nosepass lost 100% of its health.
Belphagor's Nosepass fainted.
Nosepass's Oran Berry restored health!
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Belphagor switched in Gligar (lvl 5 Gligar ?).
Gligar used Stone Edge.
Gligar lost 35% of its health.
Darkamber8828's Gligar fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Gligar is pelted by hail!
Gligar lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828 switched in Wynaut (lvl 5 Wynaut ?).
Belphagor: YES
Darkamber8828: yes?
Gligar used Earthquake.
Wynaut lost 56% of its health.
Wynaut's Oran Berry restored health!
Wynaut restored 37% of its health.
Wynaut used Counter.
Gligar lost 9% of its health.
Belphagor's Gligar fainted.
The hail continues to fall.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: also
Belphagor switched in Bagon (lvl 5 Bagon ?).
Darkamber8828: counterteamming isn't cool man
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
Wynaut used Encore.
Bagon got an encore!
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Wynaut is pelted by hail!
Wynaut lost 4% of its health.
---
Darkamber8828: gg.
Belphagor: This team originally had a Gligar on it
Darkamber8828 switched in Stunky (lvl 5 Stunky ?).
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
The hail continues to fall.
Bagon is pelted by hail!
Bagon lost 5% of its health.
Stunky is pelted by hail!
Stunky lost 4% of its health.
---
Bagon used Dragon Dance.
Bagon's attack was raised.
Bagon's speed was raised.
Stunky used Crunch.
Bagon lost 90% of its health.
Belphagor's Bagon fainted.
Bagon's Oran Berry restored health!
Stunky lost 9% of its health.
Darkamber8828 wins!
Belphagor: gg
Darkamber8828: cya
Darkamber8828 has left the room.


Note in all these logs, Pichu is OHKOed.
Number 1, why would you switch Pichu into Gligar? That was your mistake
Number 2, why would you switch Pichu into Carvanha? Another mistake you made.

I don't think these logs are reasonable proof. What I think is that you were purposefully trying to lose. But that's only my opinion.
 

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