bludz
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ORAS OU Sets Viability Ranking Thread V4
Approved by AM
Stolen from theurbandear who stole it from Recreant who stole it from Valmanway
The goal of this thread is to individually rank the viable sets of each Pokemon that has a niche in the ORAS OU environment as a community. We will try to rank every viable set, so if you think a specific set should be added, please say so. Of course, you are also welcome to comment on the rankings of the individual sets that are already posted in the thread. Please discuss things freely!
Current VR Sets Council:
bludz, theurbandear, KlefkiHolder, Mur
and AM is our secret buddy
Before you post keep in mind these few rules:
1. Only Pokemon that are ranked on the current viability ranking thread will be ranked here. This is not the place for new nominations; however, all Pokemon in the main thread will be ranked here, no matter how small their niche.
2. A Pokemon's sets cannot be ranked higher than the Pokemon is on the main viability thread - i.e. Choice Band Azumarill cannot be S rank here because Azu is only A+ rank there.
3. Post intelligently and try to provide justification for any nominations you make. One liners will be ignored.
All right, I think that about covers it. If anyone wants to make or give a banner, it would be much appreciated. Feel free to PM me any questions or concerns and happy posting!
ORAS OU Sets Viability Rankings
S Rank:
S Rank
Clefable
Magic Guard + Calm Mind: S
Support: A+
Unaware Cleric: A
Life Orb Offensive: A-
A Rank:
A+ Rank
Diancie (Mega)
Protect: A+
Rock Polish: A-
Keldeo
Choice Specs: A+
Choice Scarf: A
Calm Mind: A
RestTalk: A
Landorus-T
Defensive Stealth Rock: A+
Offensive Stealth Rock: A+
Choice Scarf: A
Double Dance: A
Latios
Special Wallbreaker: A+
Calm Mind: A+
Choice Scarf: A-
Rotom-W
Pivot: A+
Scizor (Mega)
Bulky Swords Dance: A+
Offensive Swords Dance: A+
Pursuit: A
Defog: B+
Tornadus-T
Life Orb A+
Assault Vest A+
A Rank
Azumarill
Choice Band: A
Belly Drum: A
Assault Vest: A-
Charizard (Mega-X)
Dragon Dance: A
Bulky Will-O-Wisp: A-
Excadrill
Sand Rush Sweeper: A
Choice Scarf: B+
Bulky: B-
Ferrothorn
Utility: A
Garchomp
Offensive: A
Tank: A
Choice Scarf: A-
Sub SD: B
Heatran
Utility: A
Offensive: A
Choice Scarf: A-
Lopunny (Mega)
Physical Sweeper: A
Manaphy
Tail Glow + 3 Attacks: A
Tail Glow + Rain Dance: A
Calm Mind: B
Medicham (Mega)
Wallbreaker: A
Sableye (Mega)
Utility: A
Calm Mind: A-
Slowbro
Calm Mind: A
Defensive: A
Talonflame
Offensive Swords Dance: A
Specially Defensive: A
Tyranitar
Choice Scarf: A
Choice Band: A
Support: A-
Volcanion
Special Wallbreaker: A
Weavile
Physical Sweeper: A
A- Rank
Alakazam (Mega)
Special Attacker: A-
Bisharp
Swords Dance: A-
Pursuit: B+
Charizard (Mega-Y)
Special Wallbreaker: A-
Gardevoir (Mega)
Special Wallbreaker: A-
Gliscor
Swords Dance: A-
Stallbreaker: B+
Defensive Utility: B+
SubToxic: B-
Gyarados (Mega)
Dragon Dance: A-
Heracross (Mega)
Physical Wallbreaker: A-
Jirachi
Choice Scarf: A-
Specially Defensive: B+
Expert Belt: B
SubToxic: B
Latias (Mega)
Speedy Tank: A-
Metagross (Mega)
All Out Attacker: A-
Rock Polish: B
Pinsir (Mega)
Physical Sweeper: A-
Serperior
SubSeed: A-
Special Sweeper: A-
Skarmory
Specially Defensive: A-
Physically Defensive: A-
Slowbro (Mega)
Calm Mind: A-
Thundurus
Prankster Utility: A-
Nasty Plot: A-
Mixed Attacker: A-
Venusaur (Mega)
Defensive: A-
Offensive: A-
B Rank:
B+ Rank
Aerodactyl (Mega)
Revenge Killer: B+
Altaria (Mega)
Defensive Dragon Dance: B+
Offensive Dragon Dance: B+
Specially Based Offensive Tank: B+
Support: B
Amoonguss
Pivot: B+
Chansey
Blob: B+
Gengar
Special Wallbreaker: B+
Hex: B
Klefki
Utility: B+
Kyurem-B
Life Orb Mixed Attacker: B+
Choice Specs: B+
Choice Band: B+
Choice Scarf: B
Latias
Offensive Utility: B+
Magnezone
Choice Scarf: B+
Choice Specs: B
Utility Trapper: B-
Manectric (Mega)
Offensive Pivot: B+
Mew
Stallbreaker: B+
Utility: B
Lure: B-
Starmie
Offensive Spinner: B+
Defensive Spinner: B
Suicune
Calm Mind: B+
Tangrowth
Physically Defensive: B+
Assault Vest: B
Terrakion
Choice Band: B+
Choice Scarf: B
Swords Dance: B
B Rank
Alakazam
Life Orb: B
Focus Sash: B-
Breloom
Life Orb: B
Focus Sash: B-
Poison Heal: C+
Dragonite
Dragon Dance: B
Choice Band: B-
Gastrodon
Curse: B
Defensive: B-
Gyarados
Dragon Dance: B
Hippowdon
Mixed Wall: B
Kingdra
Choice Specs: B
Life Orb: B-
Nidoking
Special Wallbreaker: B
Politoed
Bulky Rain Support: B
Quagsire
Unaware Wall: B
Raikou
Calm Mind: B
Choice Specs: B
Assault Vest: B-
Reuniclus
Calm Mind: B
Offensive Trick Room: C+
Slowking
Calm Mind: B
Defensive: B-
Assault Vest: B-
Togekiss
Stallbreaker: B
Defensive: B-
Volcarona
Offensive Quiver Dance: B
Bulky Quiver Dance: C
B- Rank
Alomomola
Fat Fish: B-
Celebi
Baton Pass: B-
Support: B-
Offensive: C+
Crawdaunt
Physical Wallbreaker: B-
Diggersby
Physical Wallbreaker: B-
Choice Scarf: C
Dragalge
Offensive Toxic Spikes: B-
Specially Defensive: B-
Choice Specs: C+
Garchomp (Mega)
Swords Dance: B-
Mixed Attacker: B-
Hydreigon
Life Orb: B-
Choice Scarf: C+
Kabutops
Rain Sweeper: B-
Mamoswine
Physical Wallbreaker: B-
Mandibuzz
Utility: B-
Metagross
Assault Vest: B-
Scizor
Swords Dance: B-
Choice Band: B-
Defog: C
Swampert (Mega)
Rain Sweeper: B-
C Rank:
C+ Rank
Beedrill (Mega)
Revenge Killer: C+
Empoleon
Utility: C+
Gallade (Mega)
Swords Dance: C+
Hawlucha
Sub SD: C+
Infernape
Defensive: C+
Offensive: C+
Lucario
Swords Dance: C+
Omastar
Rain Sweeper: C+
Sceptile (Mega)
Cleaner: C+
Scolipede
Baton Pass: C+
Offensive Cleaner: C+
Hazard Setter: C
Sharpedo (Mega)
Cleaner: C+
Tentacruel
Rapid Spin: C+
Thundurus-T
Agility (includes Double Dance): C+
Nasty Plot: C
Choice Scarf: C-
Victini
Choice Specs: C+
Expert Belt: C+
Choice Band: C+
Zapdos
Defog: C+
Zygarde
Dragon Dance: C+
SubCoil: C
C Rank
Azelf
Suicide Lead: C
Entei
Choice Band: C
Feraligatr
Dragon Dance: C
Jellicent
Defensive: C
Pidgeot (Mega)
Special Wallbreaker: C
Stallbreaker: C
Seismitoad
Defensive Utility: C
Toxicroak
Swords Dance: C
Tyranitar (Mega)
Dragon Dance: C
C- Rank
Aggron (Mega)
Tank: C-
Blastoise (Mega)
Rapid Spin: C-
Chesnaught
Defensive: C-
Belly Drum: D
Cobalion
Bulky Pivot: C-
Cofagrigus
Defensive: C-
Trick Room: C-
Conkeldurr
Assault Vest: C-
Life Orb: C-
Goodra
Special Wallbreaker: C-
Assault Vest: D
Hoopa
Choice Specs: C-
Magneton
Choice Scarf: C-
Rotom-H
Defensive: C-
Staraptor
Wallbreaker: C-
D Rank:
Ampharos (Mega)
Defensive: D
Offensive: D
Blissey
Blob: D
Bronzong
Utility: D
Cloyster
Shell Smash: D
Cresselia
Defensive: D
Trick Room: D
Dugtrio
Trapper: D
Houndoom (Mega)
Nasty Plot: D
Kyurem
SubRoost: D
Porygon2
Mixed Wall: D
Rhyperior
Choice Band: D
Defensive: D
Sylveon
Choice Specs: D
Roserade
Utility: D
Sableye
Utility: D
Shedinja
Can't Touch This: D
Tyrantrum
Dragon Dance: D
Choice Band: D
Choice Scarf: D
Whimsicott
Utility: D
Approved by AM
Stolen from theurbandear who stole it from Recreant who stole it from Valmanway
The goal of this thread is to individually rank the viable sets of each Pokemon that has a niche in the ORAS OU environment as a community. We will try to rank every viable set, so if you think a specific set should be added, please say so. Of course, you are also welcome to comment on the rankings of the individual sets that are already posted in the thread. Please discuss things freely!
Current VR Sets Council:
bludz, theurbandear, KlefkiHolder, Mur
and AM is our secret buddy
Before you post keep in mind these few rules:
1. Only Pokemon that are ranked on the current viability ranking thread will be ranked here. This is not the place for new nominations; however, all Pokemon in the main thread will be ranked here, no matter how small their niche.
2. A Pokemon's sets cannot be ranked higher than the Pokemon is on the main viability thread - i.e. Choice Band Azumarill cannot be S rank here because Azu is only A+ rank there.
3. Post intelligently and try to provide justification for any nominations you make. One liners will be ignored.
All right, I think that about covers it. If anyone wants to make or give a banner, it would be much appreciated. Feel free to PM me any questions or concerns and happy posting!
ORAS OU Sets Viability Rankings
S Rank:
S Rank
Magic Guard + Calm Mind: S
Support: A+
Unaware Cleric: A
Life Orb Offensive: A-
A Rank:
A+ Rank
Protect: A+
Rock Polish: A-
Choice Specs: A+
Choice Scarf: A
Calm Mind: A
RestTalk: A
Defensive Stealth Rock: A+
Offensive Stealth Rock: A+
Choice Scarf: A
Double Dance: A
Special Wallbreaker: A+
Calm Mind: A+
Choice Scarf: A-
Pivot: A+
Bulky Swords Dance: A+
Offensive Swords Dance: A+
Pursuit: A
Defog: B+
Life Orb A+
Assault Vest A+
A Rank
Choice Band: A
Belly Drum: A
Assault Vest: A-
Dragon Dance: A
Bulky Will-O-Wisp: A-
Sand Rush Sweeper: A
Choice Scarf: B+
Bulky: B-
Utility: A
Offensive: A
Tank: A
Choice Scarf: A-
Sub SD: B
Utility: A
Offensive: A
Choice Scarf: A-
Physical Sweeper: A
Tail Glow + 3 Attacks: A
Tail Glow + Rain Dance: A
Calm Mind: B
Wallbreaker: A
Utility: A
Calm Mind: A-
Calm Mind: A
Defensive: A
Offensive Swords Dance: A
Specially Defensive: A
Choice Scarf: A
Choice Band: A
Support: A-
Special Wallbreaker: A
Physical Sweeper: A
A- Rank
Special Attacker: A-
Swords Dance: A-
Pursuit: B+
Special Wallbreaker: A-
Special Wallbreaker: A-
Swords Dance: A-
Stallbreaker: B+
Defensive Utility: B+
SubToxic: B-
Dragon Dance: A-
Physical Wallbreaker: A-
Choice Scarf: A-
Specially Defensive: B+
Expert Belt: B
SubToxic: B
Speedy Tank: A-
All Out Attacker: A-
Rock Polish: B
Physical Sweeper: A-
SubSeed: A-
Special Sweeper: A-
Specially Defensive: A-
Physically Defensive: A-
Calm Mind: A-
Prankster Utility: A-
Nasty Plot: A-
Mixed Attacker: A-
Defensive: A-
Offensive: A-
B Rank:
B+ Rank
Revenge Killer: B+
Defensive Dragon Dance: B+
Offensive Dragon Dance: B+
Specially Based Offensive Tank: B+
Support: B
Pivot: B+
Blob: B+
Special Wallbreaker: B+
Hex: B
Utility: B+
Life Orb Mixed Attacker: B+
Choice Specs: B+
Choice Band: B+
Choice Scarf: B
Offensive Utility: B+
Choice Scarf: B+
Choice Specs: B
Utility Trapper: B-
Offensive Pivot: B+
Stallbreaker: B+
Utility: B
Lure: B-
Offensive Spinner: B+
Defensive Spinner: B
Calm Mind: B+
Physically Defensive: B+
Assault Vest: B
Choice Band: B+
Choice Scarf: B
Swords Dance: B
B Rank
Life Orb: B
Focus Sash: B-
Life Orb: B
Focus Sash: B-
Poison Heal: C+
Dragon Dance: B
Choice Band: B-
Curse: B
Defensive: B-
Dragon Dance: B
Mixed Wall: B
Choice Specs: B
Life Orb: B-
Special Wallbreaker: B
Bulky Rain Support: B
Unaware Wall: B
Calm Mind: B
Choice Specs: B
Assault Vest: B-
Calm Mind: B
Offensive Trick Room: C+
Calm Mind: B
Defensive: B-
Assault Vest: B-
Stallbreaker: B
Defensive: B-
Offensive Quiver Dance: B
Bulky Quiver Dance: C
B- Rank
Fat Fish: B-
Baton Pass: B-
Support: B-
Offensive: C+
Physical Wallbreaker: B-
Physical Wallbreaker: B-
Choice Scarf: C
Offensive Toxic Spikes: B-
Specially Defensive: B-
Choice Specs: C+
Swords Dance: B-
Mixed Attacker: B-
Life Orb: B-
Choice Scarf: C+
Rain Sweeper: B-
Physical Wallbreaker: B-
Utility: B-
Assault Vest: B-
Swords Dance: B-
Choice Band: B-
Defog: C
Rain Sweeper: B-
C Rank:
C+ Rank
Revenge Killer: C+
Utility: C+
Swords Dance: C+
Sub SD: C+
Defensive: C+
Offensive: C+
Swords Dance: C+
Rain Sweeper: C+
Cleaner: C+
Baton Pass: C+
Offensive Cleaner: C+
Hazard Setter: C
Cleaner: C+
Rapid Spin: C+
Agility (includes Double Dance): C+
Nasty Plot: C
Choice Scarf: C-
Choice Specs: C+
Expert Belt: C+
Choice Band: C+
Defog: C+
Dragon Dance: C+
SubCoil: C
C Rank
Suicide Lead: C
Choice Band: C
Dragon Dance: C
Defensive: C
Special Wallbreaker: C
Stallbreaker: C
Defensive Utility: C
Swords Dance: C
Dragon Dance: C
C- Rank
Tank: C-
Rapid Spin: C-
Defensive: C-
Belly Drum: D
Bulky Pivot: C-
Defensive: C-
Trick Room: C-
Assault Vest: C-
Life Orb: C-
Special Wallbreaker: C-
Assault Vest: D
Choice Specs: C-
Choice Scarf: C-
Defensive: C-
Wallbreaker: C-
D Rank:
Defensive: D
Offensive: D
Blob: D
Utility: D
Shell Smash: D
Defensive: D
Trick Room: D
Trapper: D
Nasty Plot: D
SubRoost: D
Mixed Wall: D
Choice Band: D
Defensive: D
Choice Specs: D
Utility: D
Utility: D
Can't Touch This: D
Dragon Dance: D
Choice Band: D
Choice Scarf: D
Utility: D
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