Missy's a ghost, why is it unbanned on monopsychic??sorry for double post
Misdreavus and Meditite on monopsychic have been unbanned from monotype! Fletchling is currently being suspected
thoughts on bans or suspects?
I was being an ass for the sake of it, i assumed he meant monoghost for missy.Yeah just to clear up, I'm pretty sure tazz meant Misdreavus is unbanned on Ghost and Meditite is unbanned on Psychic/Fighting.
In AAA you have to consider that Fairy/Ground is perfect neutral coverage in LC bar Levitate Bronzor and Zubat, since we lack Fire/Flying types or Steel/Flying types. That's damn good coverage, considering that Bronzor is generally a poor choice and Zubat's, well, Zubat.
On the other hand, abuse of these abilities is much harder compared to Aerilate. Our faires generally aren't as offensive or have better abilities to run, and ice types aren't really all that common. Refrigerate is a way to actually get good physical ice moves though. In general it's more of a coverage augmentation, which isn't bad, but isn't as overwhelming as Free Brave Bird for every flying type ever, and hell Flying's a better coverage type compared to either Fairy or Ice too. There's obviously the chance they turn out to be too strong, but they doesn't seem nearly as good as Aerilate.
I for one would be uber hyped for LC Doubles, as it would combine the two best tiersWe've also been seeing if we can get LC doubles, so would anyone be interested in that? I apologize that I have been so busy with finals.
If we keep banning broken stuff in LC Ubers, then it will just become normal LC... Sneasel was annoying but it has enough checks that it isn't unbeatable, including priority from Timburr, Croagunk and Meditite, intimidate users like Scraggy, Snubbull, and Growlithe, and also 16+ speed scarfers such as mienfoo, larvesta, vulpix, pawniard, and other stuff like Swirlix, Spritzee, Makuhita. The only thing apart from Scyther which I think should be considered would be Swirlix tbh.I for one would be uber hyped for LC Doubles, as it would combine the two best tiers
Also on a side note can we do LC Ubers without Sneasel too? It wasn't banned initially like Scyther but blarajan quickbanned it and I feel like the meta would be better without it. Of course, I didn't play the meta, but if sneasel is as garbage as it is in PGL LC then that might be nice
The other option we have is LC Doubles, which can replace PGL or something else. The metagame list is not set in stone.1) I think LC Ubers should free all mons (but not policy bans). Scyther is fucked but Sneasel is fucked too, it's not impossible to kill them (even though Eviolite makes Scyther insane whereas Sneasel negatively impacted)
2) I don't think PGL LC should be involved. We have LC Ubers to have that obscurity, but PGL LC for them most part has jack shit to do with LC.
3) what the actual fuck is a balanced hackmon?
Balanced Hackmons is a tier where no Pokemon are banned, and there are minimal limits, although there ARE some, hence the balanced part.I still dunno what a balanced hackmon is....
I think we should nix Swirlix from the discussion if we want to have a serious one. It wasn't even talked about while Sneasel, Yanma, Tangela, etc were around and this metagame because it needs to set up on a Pokemon without the ability to OHKO it, outspeed it, paralyze it, burn it (for BD) etc. In LC Ubers it's going to be really hard to find time to set up with Pokemon that OHKO it around. CM sets are actually pretty manageable if you use Vulpix (good ppl used Roar) and BD sets you can pop in the face with Bullet Punches/have a steel-type (ff doesn't usually OHKO them without CM boosts). It's a good mon you can build around in regular OU and win relatively easily, but it's clearly not the same in the fast-paced metagames like Tangma, nevermind Sneasel and Scyther.I feel like scyther would fit under 'obviously a different power bracket' with 110/105 attacking stats and 70/80/80 bulk. That's adding the attack of Archen with a faster speed than diglett with better bulk than vullaby. There really isn't a lot besides scarfers with a rock move that can realistically check a bulky swords dance roost set. It's clearly just better than any other pokemon in LC Ubers, and way harder to stop than any others.
I feel swirlix probably comes under 'It is no fun to play or watch' since it's sets are just too hard to prepare for, you need multiple checks on a team and even then you might not be able to stop it. The fact that's it's barely manageable even with multiple checks on a team pushes swirlix over the edge. Belly Drum with the flexibility to run sub/protect/flamethrower in the final slot, along with CM that has access to surf/psychic/flamethrower and CGCM that has a spare move for coverage or aromatherapy or sub, just makes it fucking horrible to play against even if you carry checks.
Nothing else will be considered for a ban from ubers, but discussion on these 2 seems needed