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I've seen 8 1/2 and loved it to pieces, saw it about a year ago.

Breathless was the first Godard I watched too, and I didn't care for it much either. His movies aren't always deep, but usually fun to watch. I think his best FNW films are Le mepris, Masculin feminin, and Vivre sa vie.
Celine and Julie is good, if you liked Out 1 you'll probably like this. Also in one scene one of the characters is wearing a t-shirt from my school B)
Bresson is one of my favorite directors though I don't think he is considered FNW. I think all his films I've seen are phenomenal so watch another when you get the opportunity.
My favorite FNW director is Eric Rohmer. A good place to start with him is My Night at Maud's.

also my avatar is no longer from pierrot le fou ahahaha the deception
I'll definitely watch more Bresson, try to watch some more Godard, and hadn't heard hardly anything of Rohmer. Thank you very much, good sir.
 
Didn't really see all that many movies in 2012. Skyfall, Life of Pi, and Les Miserables were all fantastic though.

I'm seeing Zero Dark Thirty this weekend with a couple of friends. Hooray for living in NY I guess :)
 

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Porii Sames, i'll reccomend you some good shit in a bit then. A bit lazy right now plus I have to crawl through my endless pile of dvd's to find some of the good ones.

Im more into asian cinema myself, but i'll watch just about any movie that's good. The Maltese Falcon anyone?!!!
 
I've seen a ton of movies this year, I'll try to list them all out and a few-word summary on each:

The Hunger Games: Never read the book, but the movie was an intense trip I loved.
The Lorax: Charming visuals and songs, but I feel it's a tad bit overrated and the story felt rough.
Ted: Highly offensive at times, even for my tastes, but there were some legitimately funny parts. It still felt like an extended Family Guy episode, though.
Avengers: A great start to the summer season, practically everything you need for a perfect superhero action flick in one movie.
Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted: Still not as good as the original, but an enjoyably crazy film.
Brave: Not quite up to the standards I expect from Pixar and a bit obnoxious at points, but the good parts of the movie were really good.
The Amazing Spider-Man: A good revival, but it left me confused as to things missing.
The Dark Knight Rises: I didn't like Dark Knight, so I didn't expect much going into this. Boy, was I wrong. Much better pacing than Dark Knight and more enjoyable parts, too.
The Expendables 2: Testosterone, testosterone, testosterone. Mindless but fun. Also, Chuck Norris.
Wreck-it Ralph: The best movie I saw all year. A lot of hype going into it, but it ended up better than I expected, and only got better with future watches. These characters DEMAND a sequel.

There were a lot of movies I wasn't able to see that I wanted to (Rise of the Guardians, Paranorman, Les Miserables), but I hope to catch up on them this year.
 
Finally got around to seeing Skyfall two days ago, and while the action is really intense, I feel the movie is missing some humour. In the past, James Bond movies always had some humour in them, but Skyfall (and Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace too) is very, very serious. It probably has to do with Daniel Craig playing a very hard, dark James Bond. Still, good movie.

Planning to see Life of Pi and Wreck-It Ralph some time this weekend, pretty excited about both.
 
FUCK GODDAMN SHIT I JUST WATCHED LES MIS AND IT IS SERIOUSLY SO FUCKING AMAZING, LIKE EVEN BETTER THAN BROADWAY DAMN

russell crowes voice sucks though but the story is just so good it is seirously amazing
 
Watched Django Unchained yesterday and h o l y s h i t I loved it. I've seen Pulp Fiction and both Kill Bills in the past, so I'm not as seasoned regarding Tarantino as it seems many of you are, but based on the movie alone I thought it was excellent, had a fantastic mix of everything, and had important commentary on society.
 
Some quick scores on the movies I went out to see during the winter break:

Django Unchained: 9/10
Jack Reacher: 8/10 (I was quite surprised at how much I enjoyed this, since I really didn't have high expectations for it going in.)
Argo: 9/10
 
Saw Life of Pi yesterday, and I really, really loved it. I'm a bit of a sucker for beautiful sunsets and pretty lights, and the movie really delivers in those aspects. The story itself was entertaining enough, but it was mostly the setting that really made it a great movie for me. Some of the shots are true pieces of art.



My favourite scene. Breathtaking.
 
Porii Sames, i'll reccomend you some good shit in a bit then. A bit lazy right now plus I have to crawl through my endless pile of dvd's to find some of the good ones.

Im more into asian cinema myself, but i'll watch just about any movie that's good. The Maltese Falcon anyone?!!!
Bogart Maltese Falcon?

Personally, just didn't care for it too much myself.
 
I finally got round to seeing Dark Shadows yesterday. It's an odd film; the characters seem strange and eery. Johnny Depp plays his character very well, and so do most. Some fall short, however; the main villain (I'm not gonna search her name) seems forced in terms of the character she plays. She tries too hard to be the generic evil villain, which is partly due to the script as well, and so the whole thing seems silly. The humour is great in the film, and the action at times is terrific to watch. The whole film goes a little haywire towards the end, but I can forgive that as it was still very enjoyable to watch. I also love how the whole movie was shot in a semi-black and white, where each character was pale, shadows were everywhere, etc, with only certain features in full colour, such as Helena Bonham Carter's orange hair. This film was better than I expected, and a fine film to watch, so:

Dark Shadows: 7.5/10
 
^ yay! i was getting freaked out lol. i agree with everything you said on the last page.

just saw Django in theatres; i do not personally agree with those who believe it deserves a place on Best Of lists. i thought it was disgusting, morally corrupt, exploitative, incoherent, and generally felt it could get by b/c without plotty effort b/c QT was making it.

basically, it was Inglorious Basterds but with slavers. tarantino so clearly likes to give us disgusting villains so when his main characters savagely murder them (*for justice*) we're allowed to cheer.

i thought the first half of the movie was fun. christoph waltz is fantastic; it was really his movie, but i stopped caring after
he died


i also felt the movie should have ended definitely after the shootout, which felt irrelevant (seriously? we go from "i ain't gonna die in chickasaw county, mississippi" to "sorry...just couldn't resist LOL" you seriously couldn't shake the guy's fucking hand and walk away with your money?")

plus i didn't get why they were/would have been loathe to give up brunhilde, at all

plus it freaked me out to see/hear the audience cheering like a fucking mob whenever django brutally murdered someone in cold blood. wanna know what the commentary on society is? it's that we're fucked up for laughing at and liking this movie (and yes, i did laugh at quite a few parts...especially the part at the end where he likes to turn his horse around a lot. lol.)

i also think sam jackson is a very monotonous and one-dimensional character actor. such an interesting character, and all we get out of him is that he's scary and lethal and loathsome and needs to die? what made steven? i just feel like there was unexplored territory there.

first half 8/10, second half 5/10 (the part where brunhilde sticks her fingers in her ears and giggles as django blows up the house, killing everyone trapped inside? really? are you fucking kidding me? i think you give up your right to "but it's STYLISH" when you literally have 5+ characters audibly screaming in pain after gunshot wounds
 

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ust saw Django in theatres; i do not personally agree with those who believe it deserves a place on Best Of lists. i thought it was disgusting, morally corrupt, exploitative, incoherent, and generally felt it could get by b/c without plotty effort b/c QT was making it.
so basically, every Tarantino-attached film since Pulp Fiction
 
^ yay! i was getting freaked out lol. i agree with everything you said on the last page.

just saw Django in theatres; i do not personally agree with those who believe it deserves a place on Best Of lists. i thought it was disgusting, morally corrupt, exploitative, incoherent, and generally felt it could get by b/c without plotty effort b/c QT was making it.

Go back to the PC boards then.

basically, it was Inglorious Basterds but with slavers. tarantino so clearly likes to give us disgusting villains so when his main characters savagely murder them (*for justice*) we're allowed to cheer.

I wouldn't even call DiCaprio disgusting in this one. Sure he makes people fight until death, but his general demeanor is that of a nice guy. Of course I know he's a villain, but still it's w/e.

i thought the first half of the movie was fun. christoph waltz is fantastic; it was really his movie, but i stopped caring after
he died


He was my favorite character too, but I felt it continued fine after that event.

i also felt the movie should have ended definitely after the shootout, which felt irrelevant (seriously? we go from "i ain't gonna die in chickasaw county, mississippi" to "sorry...just couldn't resist LOL" you seriously couldn't shake the guy's fucking hand and walk away with your money?")

Oh my GOD so many people ask why he didn't just shake his hand. Did you not see that Candie had hoards of gunmen waiting outside the room for them? The instant they would've walked outside they'd be dead, so when he shot him that was just 1 less to deal with and it meant everyone else was a little shocked. They COULDN'T have just walked away with the money.

plus i didn't get why they were/would have been loathe to give up brunhilde, at all

Waltz's character liked playing everything safe. It would've come off as fishy if they came all the way out to Candieland, one of the largest plantations in the south, to buy an indoor slave.

plus it freaked me out to see/hear the audience cheering like a fucking mob whenever django brutally murdered someone in cold blood. wanna know what the commentary on society is? it's that we're fucked up for laughing at and liking this movie (and yes, i did laugh at quite a few parts...especially the part at the end where he likes to turn his horse around a lot. lol.)

Tarantino has been doing this for YEARS. Tell me you didn't laugh in Pulp Fiction when Vincent "accidentally shot Marvin". I don't think Tarantino's making a social commentary, but with all I know he could be.

i also think sam jackson is a very monotonous and one-dimensional character actor. such an interesting character, and all we get out of him is that he's scary and lethal and loathsome and needs to die? what made steven? i just feel like there was unexplored territory there.

I'll give you this one, he was pretty flat.

first half 8/10, second half 5/10 (the part where brunhilde sticks her fingers in her ears and giggles as django blows up the house, killing everyone trapped inside? really? are you fucking kidding me? i think you give up your right to "but it's STYLISH" when you literally have 5+ characters audibly screaming in pain after gunshot wounds

Look at it from Django or his wife's perspective. These are people that would enslave either one of them and not give a damn about anything that they wanted and would sell them for profit in a heartbeat.
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les miz was actually really good. Anne Hathaway can actually sing really well.
Django was ok.
Life of Pi is not in theatres anymore :(. Book was really memorble so I want to see that.
Argo was really good though.
 
@Stone

I've seen 8 1/2 and loved it to pieces, saw it about a year ago.



I'll definitely watch more Bresson, try to watch some more Godard, and hadn't heard hardly anything of Rohmer. Thank you very much, good sir.
RE: Bresson

1. Watch "Au Hasard Balthazar"

2. Read "Notes on the cinematographer"

personally found this fascinating
 
HAS ANYONE SEEN ZERO DARK THIRTY YET?!

i know this is a spoiler thread but since it's only limited release in NY/LA right now I won't spoil any of the finer details.

Basically, I thought this movie was a near masterpiece.

I read Roger Ebert's review and I definitely agree with the first line ("it takes a certain courage to market this movie as a thriller") but wow, I wasn't expecting it to be so suspenseful. The use of silence in the last scene is really nerveracking. The audience in NYC was really mature too so it just made it that much better.

I thought it was a pretty unbiased account, didn't really lean liberal or conservative.

There were definitely some really heavy and uncomfortable scenes and I honestly think this is one of the few movies I really enjoyed that I couldn't be persuaded to see again (maybe when it comes out on DVD, but not in theaters). also, I think a good half hour or so could've been cut out without losing any quality. ugh, i just wanna discuss the shit out of this movie with someone

Of the movies I've recently seen, I'd rank like this (i think i already did this earlier in the thread but my rankings changed a bit)

TDKR: 8/10
Avengers : 8/10
Life of Pi: 9/10
Les Miserables: 8/10
Skyfall: 8.5/10
Zero Dark Thirty: 9.5/10
 
just saw Django in theatres; i do not personally agree with those who believe it deserves a place on Best Of lists. i thought it was disgusting, morally corrupt, exploitative, incoherent, and generally felt it could get by b/c without plotty effort b/c QT was making it.

basically, it was Inglorious Basterds but with slavers. tarantino so clearly likes to give us disgusting villains so when his main characters savagely murder them (*for justice*) we're allowed to cheer.

plus it freaked me out to see/hear the audience cheering like a fucking mob whenever django brutally murdered someone in cold blood. wanna know what the commentary on society is? it's that we're fucked up for laughing at and liking this movie (and yes, i did laugh at quite a few parts...especially the part at the end where he likes to turn his horse around a lot. lol.)
Holy hell, I hated Basterds, but not for exactly the same reasons you did. Tarantino is allowed to load up his movies with as much cold blooded murder as he likes, and hes even allowed to cast it such that we are rooting for the murderer.

My main problem with Basterds was that people just accepted the movie blindly rather than thinking about it. My teacher, who is otherwise a sensible and intelligent human being, shocked me when she said the basterds were unambiguously heroic, simply because they killed Nazis. As for your assessment that Tarantino gives us ruthless villains that we cant wait to watch die, let me submit for your consideration the Nazi Sargent who the bear jew beat to death after they finish taunting him. He was very explicitly not involved with the holocaust at all.

The basterds were so consumed by hate that they went on a mass murdering spree that ended with them shooting down into a crowded movie theater as it was burning down and the patrons were banging on the locked door. Having spent most of my primary education in and out of Jewish Zionist day schools, I know the gas chamber imagery when it is being evoked.

And that makes me uneasy. Because while you (and Tarantino), as a goy, might see a revenge fantasy, I, as a Jew, see something else; the implications that if the tables were turned, we would act the exact same way. Not in a similar manner, or in a manner befitting revenge. No, the exact same way: shooting our enemies when they are helpless, killing everyone who gets in our way, and yes, even gas chambers.

So that's why i haven't been too drawn to Tarantino as of late. Django seems to be the same thing but for black people. Tarantino is kind of like that white douchbag who goes to minority rallies, and means well, but doesn't get it.

Just some food for thought
 
Holy hell, I hated Basterds, but not for exactly the same reasons you did. Tarantino is allowed to load up his movies with as much cold blooded murder as he likes, and hes even allowed to cast it such that we are rooting for the murderer.

My main problem with Basterds was that people just accepted the movie blindly rather than thinking about it. My teacher, who is otherwise a sensible and intelligent human being, shocked me when she said the basterds were unambiguously heroic, simply because they killed Nazis. As for your assessment that Tarantino gives us ruthless villains that we cant wait to watch die, let me submit for your consideration the Nazi Sargent who the bear jew beat to death after they finish taunting him. He was very explicitly not involved with the holocaust at all.

The basterds were so consumed by hate that they went on a mass murdering spree that ended with them shooting down into a crowded movie theater as it was burning down and the patrons were banging on the locked door. Having spent most of my primary education in and out of Jewish Zionist day schools, I know the gas chamber imagery when it is being evoked.

And that makes me uneasy. Because while you (and Tarantino), as a goy, might see a revenge fantasy, I, as a Jew, see something else; the implications that if the tables were turned, we would act the exact same way. Not in a similar manner, or in a manner befitting revenge. No, the exact same way: shooting our enemies when they are helpless, killing everyone who gets in our way, and yes, even gas chambers.

So that's why i haven't been too drawn to Tarantino as of late. Django seems to be the same thing but for black people. Tarantino is kind of like that white douchbag who goes to minority rallies, and means well, but doesn't get it.

Just some food for thought
i don't really understand your grievances, but i will admit that that might stem from the fact that i don't belong to any race or culture that has been othered

the thousands upon thousands of revenge stories in media are ok when both parties are white, but when the revenging party is black or jewish it suddenly becomes slanderous? i can see the potential harm if negative stereotypes are being promulgated, but even then only barely; how querulant must an italian be to be offended by a mafia movie?

i've always just been of the opinion that the answer is never, ever 'less art'. the difference, i think, between tarantino and that white douchebag at a minority rally is that tarantino wants to make art. he didn't make basterds with the intent of freeing the jews from their past by giving them a delicious revenge story, he just thought it would make for a good movie, and most people agreed with him. he isn't saying 'this is what the jews want', he's saying 'this is what my characters want'. i don't see how the two intersect in any way other than cosmetically.

as a followup question, would you be less offended if tarantino were jewish?
 

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