D:physical megazam new meta??
D:physical megazam new meta??
Greninja dies to quite a lot of things, but especially to flinch-proof or priority. Hell, why not both? CoughlucarioanddragoniteCough. It's like frail, and set-up bait.Greninjaaaaaa Everythinggggg x)
I wouldn't go that far. Greninja has priority of its own in Water Shuriken, which is only outsped by Extremespeed, Fake Out and Feint, and has great offensive presence with high speed and strong attacks with good effects like Scald, Ice Beam, Dark Pulse, Extrasensory and Waterfall. And how is it set-up bait exactly? The only thing that can really set up on it is Lapras with Ancientpower, but that's about it, as it is kind of hard to set up with normal set-up moves in this metagame. You and Dark4Ever are going on two extremes here.Greninja dies to quite a lot of things, but especially to flinch-proof or priority. Hell, why not both? CoughlucarioanddragoniteCough. It's like frail, and set-up bait.
Any reason why you're using it over Weavile? Its both stronger and faster. Sneasel is also pretty frail, only reason i see to use it is Ice Punch Fake Out Bite.I know I'm possibly very late to the party, but has anyone tried Sneasel? Inner Focus + good speed + Ice Punch and Bite + cannot be frozen + Gengar can't touch it.
The only thing it really has over its bigger bro is Inner Focus, which admittedly is amazing, but Weavile's extra speed is actually important in a meta where scarf Greninja is standard (can't say for sure tho because I never actually tried Sneasel). If you lack an Inner Focus poke or you just want to be very sure you don't get flinch haxed Sneasel might be good, but otherwise I think Weavile would just be superior.I know I'm possibly very late to the party, but has anyone tried Sneasel? Inner Focus + good speed + Ice Punch and Bite + cannot be frozen + Gengar can't touch it.
Weavile does not have Inner Focus. The ability to be immune to the 2 biggest status, and being able to dish both status back with STAB is pretty impressive imo.Any reason why you're using it over Weavile? Its both stronger and faster. Sneasel is also pretty frail, only reason i see to use it is Ice Punch Fake Out Bite.
I am not really using it as an answer to flinch in specific. I just stumbled across it when I wanted a fast flincher which happens to be immune to flinch itself. Besides, Sneasel outspeeds most users of Iron Head anyway. Though admittedly since Stench got banned, its flinch immunity isn't that significant anymore compared to faster flinchers.The only thing it really has over its bigger bro is Inner Focus, which admittedly is amazing, but Weavile's extra speed is actually important in a meta where scarf Greninja is standard (can't say for sure tho because I never actually tried Sneasel). If you lack an Inner Focus poke or you just want to be very sure you don't get flinch haxed Sneasel might be good, but otherwise I think Weavile would just be superior.
Btw, Sneasel does not like Iron Head, so it's far from a reliable flinch answer.
252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Sneasel on a critical hit: 237-279 (94.4 - 111.1%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKOWeavile does not have Inner Focus. The ability to be immune to the 2 biggest status, and being able to dish both status back with STAB is pretty impressive imo.
I am not really using it as an answer to flinch in specific. I just stumbled across it when I wanted a fast flincher which happens to be immune to flinch itself. Besides, Sneasel outspeeds most users of Iron Head anyway. Though admittedly since Stench got banned, its flinch immunity isn't that significant anymore compared to faster flinchers.
Sneasel does outspeed most users of iron head (or other flinch moves), but they often have ways to boost their speed, or have strong priority.I am not really using it as an answer to flinch in specific. I just stumbled across it when I wanted a fast flincher which happens to be immune to flinch itself. Besides, Sneasel outspeeds most users of Iron Head anyway. Though admittedly since Stench got banned, its flinch immunity isn't that significant anymore compared to faster flinchers.
Being immune to practically the 2 most disruptive status in this metagame means it can afford to run Eviolite. With Eviolite, it reaches a respectable what is equivalent of 55/91/121 bulk, which is about Rotom-W level bulk.252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Sneasel on a critical hit: 237-279 (94.4 - 111.1%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Lucario Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Sneasel on a critical hit: 268-316 (106.7 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Sneasel on a critical hit: 565-666 (225 - 265.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
This are all some of the common Priority Users, which from the calc, mostly OHKOs. While having Inner Focus can be useful, the only thing you can do with it is freeze something and flinch whatever's faster. Its also fairly frail compared to Dnite or even Lapras in this case.
Because trollfreak :/.Why Rotom-Wash can't learn Scald?
You don't want to burn your clothes in the washing machine, do you?Why Rotom-Wash can't learn Scald?