It's already mentioned in Additional Comments for both the Substitute and Choice Band sets. Conkeldurr kind of enjoys the Leftovers recovery/Life Orb boost on top of Guts, considering all of the Will-o-Wisps and Toxics flying around.yeah this needs a flame orb set
arguably very effective.
get a hitmonchan with mach punch by breeding (not exactly sure how about this tbh... sorry), teach it drain punch the tm from 4th gen, transfer to 5th gen breed with female conkelfuck and u should have the timburr with mach and drain punchcan someone help me get a timburr with both mach punch and drain punch
This allows Conkeldurr to comfortably obtain two Bulk Ups and follow up with Drain Punch to recover the health lost from Scald.
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD Careful spread allows Conkeldurr to set up on Pokemon such as Vaporeon easily. Boiling Water won't even 4HKO Conkeldurr, while +1 Drain Punch can fully recover Conkeldurr's lost health.</p>
But then you're immune to freeze, sleep, and paralysis. Drain Punch covers recovery and Bulk up gives the boost. I've been using the Bulk up set with flame orb in trick room, and it is quite effective. Bulk up for massive attack, the drain punch the burn damage off. (Watch out for Hex Cofagrigus).It's already mentioned in Additional Comments for both the Substitute and Choice Band sets. Conkeldurr kind of enjoys the Leftovers recovery/Life Orb boost on top of Guts, considering all of the Will-o-Wisps and Toxics flying around.
-Zane
You're better off attempting to absorb a stray Thunder Wave or Will-O-Wisp rather than waste your item slot, time, AND survivability just so you get that one status. Catching status is very available in a metagame filled with many kinds of status users, especially Ferrothorn and Jellicent. Trick Room and Hex users are pretty much irrelevant, and the general consensus is: Leftovers is better.But then you're immune to freeze, sleep, and paralysis. Drain Punch covers recovery and Bulk up gives the boost. I've been using the Bulk up set with flame orb in trick room, and it is quite effective. Bulk up for massive attack, the drain punch the burn damage off. (Watch out for Hex Cofagrigus).
Are you sure about that? After all, Hitmonchan gets Iron Fist to boost his Focus Punch ... I haven't done calcs, though.Conkeldurr boasts the most powerful Focus Punch in the game.
Yes, Conkeldurr has the highest Attack of all fighting types and obviously gets STAB. Hitmonchan does get Iron Fist (which Conkeldurr doesn't have yet), but base 105 attack pales in comparison to Conkeldurr's base 140.Are you sure about that? After all, Hitmonchan gets Iron Fist to boost his Focus Punch ... I haven't done calcs, though.
Roob does pip Hitmonchan power-wise but strictly speaking Medicham has the strongest Focus Punch on the game, at least until Iron Fist is released so that should probably be changed.Yes, Conkeldurr has the highest Attack of all fighting types and obviously gets STAB. Hitmonchan does get Iron Fist (which Conkeldurr doesn't have yet), but base 105 attack pales in comparison to Conkeldurr's base 140.
Correct. My bad, I never thought about Pure Power...Roob does pip Hitmonchan power-wise but strictly speaking Medicham has the strongest Focus Punch on the game, at least until Iron Fist is released so that should probably be changed.
/nitpick
Shouldn't twice be once? Read it, twice implies three Bulk Ups. The Gliscor set is outdated too.[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Mach Punch
move 4: Payback / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
ability: Guts
nature: Brave / Adamant
evs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe
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[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>There are a lot of ways to EV Conkeldurr. When using Payback,
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Max HP is never a bad option as it keeps Conkeldurr sturdy on the specially defensive side while further improving its physical bulk. After a Bulk Up, Skarmory's Brave Bird will fail to 2HKO Conkeldurr. This allows Conkeldurr to Bulk Up while Skarmory switches in, Bulk Up twice more, survive the second Brave Bird assault, and follow up with Drain Punch, which will 2HKO Skarmory. Therefore Skarmory cannot effectively counter Conkeldurr, since it might take heavy damage using Whirlwind to force Conkeldurr out to little advantage, and cannot use Roost since this increases the power of Drain Punch significantly. One can choose to be more defensive, though keep in mind that Conkeldurr will then not be much of athreat until it uses Bulk Up a few times. 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD Careful spread allows Conkeldurr to set up on Pokemon such as Vaporeon easily. Scald won't even 4HKO Conkeldurr, while +1 Drain Punch can fully recover Conkeldurr's lost health.</p>
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[Checks and Counters]
<p>Poison Heal Gliscor is probably the most solid counter to Conkeldurr, as it can take any of its moves and whittle Conkeldurr down with STAB Acrobat. However, they should Fling their item prior to facing Conkeldurr, as the status can activate Guts. Once relieved of its item, Gliscor can proceed to attack Conkeldurr with a STAB-boosted Acrobat, while still maintaining the ability to take all of Conkeldurr’s moves. Skarmory also makes a nice counter due to its immense physical bulk and access to STAB Brave Bird, as well as the ability to phaze Conkeldurr out, nullifying any boosts it may acquire. However, one must beware of Guts-boosted Hammer Arm coming off the Choice Band set, as any Stealth Rock damage plus Brave Bird recoil equals a dead Skarmory. Skarmory, like Gliscor, should be wary of when to Roost, as any of Conkeldurr’s boosted Fighting STAB moves really hurt once they rid themselves of their Flying-type.