Deoxys-S should be removed from the check and counter list.
You are correct, I'm not sure why the Speed investment was specified like that, I assume it was leftover from an error when I copied Subject18s skeleton. Thanks for pointing that out.108 Spe EVs are useless on the Bulky DD, 64 Spe EVs suffice to outspeed Greninja at +1.
So I think the spread 248 HP / 196 Atk / 64 Spe is better.
Aren't those speed evs to outspeed jolly breloom?You are correct, I'm not sure why the Speed investment was specified like that, I assume it was leftover from an error when I copied Subject18s skeleton. Thanks for pointing that out.
Alright, gotcha.Actually I'm confused now I'll just fix it later.
Imo its worth a mention in set details.When using Flareblitz investing 28 EVs into attack almost doubles the chance of a 2hko against physical defensive Clefable from 35,5% to 64,5%
done, thanks dude :]i'd also put somewhere next to the celebi mention that it can baton pass substitutes to charizard (vs mega scizor for example) and give you a scary sd/dd mega zard behind a sub. don't forget to take out any mention of banned pokemon such as mawile. anyway 1/3 broski (why was i the first check)
TRC Quoting myself here cause i am beeing ignored again. At least give a short statement why you dont want to go for 160 speed on the bulky WoW set. I am realy curious to know why outspeeding and burning/killing adamant Excadrill (which is on 50% of the teams atm) is not worth investing 8 more EVs. So please enlighten me.Regarding the Bulky WoW set, if you invest 152 to get the jump on Heracross you can just as well add 8 more to cover Excadrill as well. Can be crucial to burn it before it hits you with EQ. Also i would like to quote myself from last page here:
I strongly disagree with using that much speed on spdef zard x, as you lose out on a significant amount of special bulk which is needed IMO.TRC Quoting myself here cause i am beeing ignored again. At least give a short statement why you dont want to go for 160 speed on the bulky WoW set. I am realy curious to know why outspeeding and burning/killing adamant Excadrill (which is on 50% of the teams atm) is not worth investing 8 more EVs. So please enlighten me.
So 8 EVs = significant amount? Are we playing different games? The current spread already has 152 EVs for jolly mega Hera. 8 more and you get the jump on adamant Exca.I strongly disagree with using that much speed on spdef zard x, as you lose out on a significant amount of special bulk which is needed IMO.
Ah, nevermind then. I dont usually use that much speed on spdef zard x, I was going off of my experience and not what was changed. I guess the 8 evs might be worth it.So 8 EVs = significant amount? Are we playing different games? The current spread already has 152 EVs for jolly mega Hera. 8 more and you get the jump on adamant Exca.
Why mention +1 in a set without Dragon Dance?However, the Jolly nature does leave a noticeable power drop, to demonstrate it, +1 Adamant Mega Charizard X is guaranteed to OHKO 252 / 0 Hippowdon with Flare Blitz with just one layer of Spikes (88.8 – 105%), while with a Jolly nature, it needs a little more entry hazards to achieve the KO (80.7 – 95.2%).