I do consider pluff anti though because of his ability to take craps on common team archetypes in this meta
Hey, I really wonder though, what do you think are ideal partners for this poke (aside from the obvious sand setter)? I cant really think of anything that can really switch in and kill aside from maybe sash mamo. I really wanna try the set out and i need some recommendations on what other pokes would be good for it.
Landorus @ Life Orb
Trait: Sand Force
Naive Nature (+Spe, -SpD)
252 Atk/ 4 Def/ 252 Spe
-Gravity
-Earthquake
-Hidden Power Ice
-U-Turn
Gravity Landorus is an excellent Anti-Metagame threat that works against the metagame by destroying its usual counters (Skarmory, Bronzong, Gliscor) and negating the Ground immunities that are abused by the omnipresent Therians/Rotom-W/Gengar. Not much at all can switch into a Gravity Earthquake from a Sand Force and Life Orb-boosted base 125 attack, and the few that can get smacked by HP Ice or U-Turned into something that can take it on. This is a set that gives a lot of standard teams problems in this meta, especially with support from a Bulky Hippowdon to keep sand up.
Best pokes for that particular Landorus are things that enjoy beaten Skarmory and Rotom-W. Mamoswine is the obvious one, "resisting" Ice-attacks thanks to Thick Fat, but they compound a water weakness. If used in a sand team, Sandslash is also a pretty good option, since it can usually SD up and EQ its way to victory when no levitating 'mons are around.Hey, I really wonder though, what do you think are ideal partners for this poke (aside from the obvious sand setter)? I cant really think of anything that can really switch in and kill aside from maybe sash mamo. I really wanna try the set out and i need some recommendations on what other pokes would be good for it.
This looks pretty similar to my current Heatran, except I'm running Earth Power over HP Ice and I'm running max speed + Balloon to beat other Tran and most weather starters. It's fun to come in on Politoed and set up sun before it can get off a scald or a hydro pump, then solar beam in its face.
(cuz normal sprites are too mainstream, dw ftw.)
Heatran @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 HP / 252 SDef
Modest Nature
- Magma Storm
- Sunny Day
- SolarBeam
- Hidden Power [Ice]
This thing just sets up all over weathers face. It has Magma Storm to trap the enemy and to deal with Abomasnow, Solarbeam to take care of TTar and Hippowdon after Sunny day, and HP ice for coverage.
IMO, Magma Storm and Sunny Day sets are the best ways to trap weather without a weaksauce Duggy.
(set is courtesy of a random guy in my class)
Antimeta?
Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Imposter
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Transform
I love this guy. People for some reason don't expect him, but I've managed to grab a couple of sweeps form simply copying a pokemon's boosts with Ditto.The Unlucky One said:^ Its pretty easy to play around Ditto though. Also, no IV adjustments to give you HP Ice or some other Hidden Power?
I just wanted to add onto Mamoswine, who is a great pokemon in BW2 btw. Here is the set I use:
Mamoswine @ Life Orb
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Spear/Icicle Crash
- Superpower
A couple of things; if you can afford to have another member on your team put down Stealth Rock, it gives you another slot for extra coverage. The main attacking move is obviously Earthquake since it has no drawbacks. Ice Shard is pretty obvious as well. Icicle Spear is interesting and I use it over Icicle Crash because of stuff like Sub/Roost Dragonite who thinks it can just Dragon Tail Mamoswine away. I rarely use it other than against something like Hippowdon but if you don't fear Sub/Roost Dragonite (or Zapdos) then Crash is probably the better option. For the last slot I chose Superpower which hits a good amount of stuff for a lot of damage, including Rotom-W, Balloon Heatran and Ferrothorn.
You may have noticed that I use Jolly as well. This is mainly to beat Breloom. On the ladder I ran into a couple of Jolly Breloom who outspeed Adamant Mamoswine and KO with Mach Punch. My team was a little weak to Breloom so I switched to Jolly and I find it works much better for me. Some may miss the raw power of Adamant but for that particular team Jolly is superior. I also outspeed any Heatran which is pretty useful.
Is Sunny Day for a Sun Team? Doesn't it just boost Fortress' weakness to Firethat's the set i've been using for mothes.
Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 80 Def / 252 HP / 176 SDef
Bold Nature
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Sunny Day
- Volt Switch
This.Antimeta?
Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Imposter
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Transform
Well, in my experience, I prefer using whimsicott if fearing choice pokes. This is because burn only affects normal attack. However, SS and the para it brings affects everything (especially scarf). And in your argument "against", sable, he can at least burn the physical ones lol.@windwolf I can't speak for Whimiscot or Thundurus, but Sableye falls to things like Specs Politoed, CB Landorus, and other pokemon that hit hard right off the bat. Taunt will prevent set-up sweepers, but is there a solution for Choiced Pokemon? (I'm thinking of adding one to my team, so I'm curious)