I beg to differ.
YOOM-TAH
Also ffs I never cried at a videogame until
Time/Darkness/Sky ending. Almost tearing up thinking about it
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YOOM-TAH
Also ffs I never cried at a videogame until
I mean it is optional side stuff for nostalgia, but as for the main story it felt like a rehash of GTI's (down to literally using negative emotions as a boss), the awkward "Preschool" that even the player calls BS, and the
Legendary mons were also awkwardly extremely useless in Super's story. Like really bad. Arceus doesn't even blink and it's immediately nullified
Super was really meant to be the last PMD game in dev interviews, so I shouldn't be too mad at nostalgia refs. It sadly just doesn't make sense...
hackiness of Mew being the partner, or that this is making up for a failed previous attempt
Super was really meant to be the last PMD game in dev interviews, so I shouldn't be too mad at nostalgia refs. It sadly just doesn't make sense...
people really misunderstand super mystery dungeon's plot so bad jesus christttttt
and I won't explain it because spoilers
I don't think most people are gonna complain about spoilers for a nearly 10 year old game.
I guess my unpopular opinion is that I dont enjoy explorers of sky that much. I didn't really care or enjoy most of the characters or find the plot engaging. Especially because most of it is team skull and guild related which tbh are pretty weak characters for me. grovyle is fun though i wish some of that side episode stuff was in the main game, i think it was a wasted opportunity.
i played the post game which, while i get the plot reasons for, annoyed me a lot with forcing me to be a baby stage for waaaay too long. I hit late 40s and 50s and a lot of the starters just dont have good moves beyond their 20s, which made it very annoying to fight. I was lucky i found a giga drain tm for my treecko so one of us had a decent bp move, but my mudkip was detritus LOL. I think rescuers had a better idea in letting you evolve on lv 20s-30s so that you could follow a progress closer to what the moveset of these mons were designed for. also the darkrai reveal was whatever
i dont think its a bad game. i see why people like it. it just didnt really connect to me
i played the post game which, while i get the plot reasons for, annoyed me a lot with forcing me to be a baby stage for waaaay too long. I hit late 40s and 50s and a lot of the starters just dont have good moves beyond their 20s, which made it very annoying to fight. I was lucky i found a giga drain tm for my treecko so one of us had a decent bp move, but my mudkip was detritus LOL. I think rescuers had a better idea in letting you evolve on lv 20s-30s so that you could follow a progress closer to what the moveset of these mons were designed for. also the darkrai reveal was whatever
i dont think its a bad game. i see why people like it. it just didnt really connect to me
RT and Explorers suffer from dungeon missions being used to pad out filler, and no way to just simply sleep to pass time. There are no side char quests like a typical RPG, so one can feel too dragged into just repeat dungeon plays. The Dojo is the only side content that point, and there's no real story there
It seems they were aware of that in Sky, so maingame there are 2 (ish) events unrelated added, but the former Cafe is just a cafe, the latter Shaymin peak is explicitly post Dialga (ironically requiring the cafe), as nice as it is. The Special episodes thankfully add focus to other chars, though Sunflora's is straight ASS. I'm still mad Team Skull got nothing, missed opportunity. Croagunk and Corphish are super undeveloped as well
Sadly despite later MD games having a more impressionable cast, they didn't keep the idea of side episodes. Would've been nice
It seems they were aware of that in Sky, so maingame there are 2 (ish) events unrelated added, but the former Cafe is just a cafe, the latter Shaymin peak is explicitly post Dialga (ironically requiring the cafe), as nice as it is. The Special episodes thankfully add focus to other chars, though Sunflora's is straight ASS. I'm still mad Team Skull got nothing, missed opportunity. Croagunk and Corphish are super undeveloped as well
Sadly despite later MD games having a more impressionable cast, they didn't keep the idea of side episodes. Would've been nice
RB Golbat is the best depiction of Golbat in any form of Pokemon media, ever.
This sprite is often the go-to when people talk about Gen 1's sprites, for better or for worse. The tongue is off-model with how its depicted in any other part of the franchise, it's a lot longer than it usually is, and the eyes are completely off. It's the perfect exemplar of how Pokemon hadn't quite found its visual identity yet, and the series wasn't strictly focused on maintaining a positive brand image. The differences are pretty glaring when you look at it side-by-side with its official art:
But here's the thing: I love these differences. The Golbat of the RB sprite has so much more personality and energy to it than I've ever seen in any other depiction of the Pokemon. The long, salivating tongue and its narrow eyes make it look hungry, in a way that's never really been conveyed elsewhere. Let's take a brief look at its Pokedex entries:
It gorges, it gulps, it drinks blood until it literally cannot fly anymore. Golbat is gluttonous to an extreme, and nothing conveys that better than this sprite. Is the anatomy incorrect? Yes, of course it is - but its Red and Blue sprite tells me so much more about its personality because of the creative liberties it takes with its design. If I'm being frank, I think Golbat is a really bland and dull Pokemon after Generation 1 - a sentiment that's not helped by the existence of Crobat - and a large part of it is that its personality has simply vanished. The open mouth is still the central design element, but that hunger you see in its RB sprite has seemingly dissipated.
For what it's worth, I think the RG sprite and especially the Yellow sprite are bad about this too. In general, I think the Yellow sprites represent a rough transition period between the weirdness of Gen 1 and the "standardization" we'd see for the rest of the series, but Golbat gets the worst of it. These sprites are also boring to me, despite liking Gen 1 sprites on the whole.
I don't think we'll ever see anything quite like the Red and Blue sprites again, and while that makes sense as gaming hardware and the Pokemon franchise continues to grow and evolve, I look back on them with fondness, and think they deserve a better rep than what they get. Their sheer contrast from the rest of the series' design philosophy is what makes them so compelling to me, and the Game Boy's hardware meant that these sprites had to be creative in how they presented the personality of these creatures to make them stand out as living, breathing entities.
This sprite is often the go-to when people talk about Gen 1's sprites, for better or for worse. The tongue is off-model with how its depicted in any other part of the franchise, it's a lot longer than it usually is, and the eyes are completely off. It's the perfect exemplar of how Pokemon hadn't quite found its visual identity yet, and the series wasn't strictly focused on maintaining a positive brand image. The differences are pretty glaring when you look at it side-by-side with its official art:
But here's the thing: I love these differences. The Golbat of the RB sprite has so much more personality and energy to it than I've ever seen in any other depiction of the Pokemon. The long, salivating tongue and its narrow eyes make it look hungry, in a way that's never really been conveyed elsewhere. Let's take a brief look at its Pokedex entries:
It gorges, it gulps, it drinks blood until it literally cannot fly anymore. Golbat is gluttonous to an extreme, and nothing conveys that better than this sprite. Is the anatomy incorrect? Yes, of course it is - but its Red and Blue sprite tells me so much more about its personality because of the creative liberties it takes with its design. If I'm being frank, I think Golbat is a really bland and dull Pokemon after Generation 1 - a sentiment that's not helped by the existence of Crobat - and a large part of it is that its personality has simply vanished. The open mouth is still the central design element, but that hunger you see in its RB sprite has seemingly dissipated.
For what it's worth, I think the RG sprite and especially the Yellow sprite are bad about this too. In general, I think the Yellow sprites represent a rough transition period between the weirdness of Gen 1 and the "standardization" we'd see for the rest of the series, but Golbat gets the worst of it. These sprites are also boring to me, despite liking Gen 1 sprites on the whole.
I don't think we'll ever see anything quite like the Red and Blue sprites again, and while that makes sense as gaming hardware and the Pokemon franchise continues to grow and evolve, I look back on them with fondness, and think they deserve a better rep than what they get. Their sheer contrast from the rest of the series' design philosophy is what makes them so compelling to me, and the Game Boy's hardware meant that these sprites had to be creative in how they presented the personality of these creatures to make them stand out as living, breathing entities.
The opinion of "Gen 1 sprites were good" is slowly but surely creeping its way out of unpopularity and I am so happy that it is. Give Golbat its tongue back.
Mew’s Gen 1 sprite has often been criticized for being ugly or creepy:
But I’ve always really liked that about it. The lumpy, fetal, vaguely eerie look of it always felt like a good match for the concept of a Pokémon that’s supposed to be a rediscovered universal ancestor. It feels underdeveloped and moldable, like a prototype of a lifeform. Cute Mew is nice and all, but this depiction was always more intriguing and evocative to me.
But I’ve always really liked that about it. The lumpy, fetal, vaguely eerie look of it always felt like a good match for the concept of a Pokémon that’s supposed to be a rediscovered universal ancestor. It feels underdeveloped and moldable, like a prototype of a lifeform. Cute Mew is nice and all, but this depiction was always more intriguing and evocative to me.
If you can't handle RB at its Chansey, then you don't deserve it at its Golbat.
EDIT: Looking back, I'm pretty sure their Gen I sprites were the specific reason why I've always thought that the evolution from Haunter to Gengar was a step down in cool.
EDIT: Looking back, I'm pretty sure their Gen I sprites were the specific reason why I've always thought that the evolution from Haunter to Gengar was a step down in cool.
I absolutely love this direction with Mew's design. I get why they didn't keep it that way, as it certainly would have been less marketable and it would have lost some of its visual contrast with Mewtwo, but I do miss embryonic Mew. It's another one of those Gen 1 sprites that may not be strictly accurate, at least compared to what came after, but gives the gen a lot of character and charm. I do prefer the Mew we ended up with, but RG Mew gets unfairly maligned when it's a great design in its own right.Mew’s Gen 1 sprite has often been criticized for being ugly or creepy:
But I’ve always really liked that about it. The lumpy, fetal, vaguely eerie look of it always felt like a good match for the concept of a Pokémon that’s supposed to be a rediscovered universal ancestor. It feels underdeveloped and moldable, like a prototype of a lifeform. Cute Mew is nice and all, but this depiction was always more intriguing and evocative to me.
I really do believe that Gastly lost something by gaining a solid body at all. Makes more sense to me why you'd be unable to see it without a Silph Scope if it literally doesn't have a solid form, after all, and it made the growing body from Haunter and Gengar much more interesting to me. This also isn't a liberty that RB took ala Golbat's tongue, it's what the RG sprite did as well:
That said, I again sympathize with why it would be changed. I can't imagine animating a floating ball of gas with a face for the anime would be very fun, after all, and you could argue the design space of a gaseous Pokemon was already occupied by Koffing. Still, just a personal grumbling of mine!
(For what it's worth, I don't think that Pokemon fell as a series after Gen 1 or anything. I just find Gen 1 and Gen 2's design philosophies, and how they evolved into the rest of the series, really fascinating!)
Gen 1 Haunter is like that perfect middle ground where it still comes off at least a little bit ephemeral but also has enough of a form and presence to be imposing.
Gen 1 Gengar looks like, idk, a plush doll or something.
PMD handling an obligatory always-on exp share better than mainline ever did
(except Legends Arceus ofc)But yeah, ima say Gates starts well, characters like Gurdurr and Virizion being the standouts imo, some dungeons use a bit of overworld exploration and there's some puzzles like Inflora. However, the game suffers from "mucho texto" syndrome. Like for example, when you fall from the sky at the start of the game, the partner mentions that you fell from the sky like 3-5 times. Infamously during the Great Glacier expedition everyone stops to repeat over and over how the place is covered with ice. This 'people die when they are killed' dialogue, coupled with the slow text speed really hampered the experience for me...
GTI definitely has some bad dialogue (and mucho texto syndrome is a good term for it), but this specific dialogue is a funny meta joke. RPGs often have those types of silly location names, and seeing it spelled out by a character gets a chuckle out of me. I think it was intentional.PMD handling an obligatory always-on exp share better than mainline ever did
But yeah, ima say Gates starts well, characters like Gurdurr and Virizion being the standouts imo, some dungeons use a bit of overworld exploration and there's some puzzles like Inflora. However, the game suffers from "mucho texto" syndrome. Like for example, when you fall from the sky at the start of the game, the partner mentions that you fell from the sky like 3-5 times. Infamously during the Great Glacier expedition everyone stops to repeat over and over how the place is covered with ice. This 'people die when they are killed' dialogue, coupled with the slow text speed really hampered the experience for me...
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Sword and Shield were shockingly awful imo. Genuinely one of the worst games I have ever played, Pokemon or not. The whole world feels dead and half-baked, it makes me depressed playing it. I was absolutely in awe of how truly terrible it was. However, I did enjoy Scarlet and Violet, they weren't the best games in the series, but I actually thoroughly enjoyed the experience, I liked the characters and enjoyed the story, and the world actually feels alive. I did experience bugs, but nothing too serious, and didn't encounter them very frequently.
Overall it somewhat reminds me of Gen 7, in that it was a refinement and improvement of the previous generation. My feelings on Gen 6 are similar to 8, but 6 was nowhere near as bad.
I say this is an unpopular opinion because it generally seems like people who didn't like SwSh didn't like SV either.
Overall it somewhat reminds me of Gen 7, in that it was a refinement and improvement of the previous generation. My feelings on Gen 6 are similar to 8, but 6 was nowhere near as bad.
I say this is an unpopular opinion because it generally seems like people who didn't like SwSh didn't like SV either.
Unsure if that's an unpopular opinion for veteran fans.
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I think the unpopular opinion here other than them also stating they like SV is the degree to which OP dislikes SWSH. Essentially "SWSH is even worse than people think"
Ehhhhh, SwSh wasn't THAT bad.
As a guy who very much disliked SwSh (at a region at least, the roster and a lot of the cast gets my approval), the idea that "hating SwSh but liking SV" would be an unpopular opinion is definitely news to me.
Like whether or not one thinks either is good they feel like they have such different approaches to world design and the story structures that I wouldn't expect a correlation between disliking one and disliking the other as games (barring people who simply dislike larger scale design mentalities that permeate more than just those two gens).
Like whether or not one thinks either is good they feel like they have such different approaches to world design and the story structures that I wouldn't expect a correlation between disliking one and disliking the other as games (barring people who simply dislike larger scale design mentalities that permeate more than just those two gens).
what the anime did in SM feels like the closest thing to the uniqueness of gen 1 sprites and i wouldn't mind if that (not necessarily the same style) was applied to a main series game. the same creatures, a different art direction that gives it identity compared to the other games.
I'm in the camp of "SWSH is passable, but SV is just unacceptable"
Which is curious bc I have always found the second pokemon generation in a console better than the prev one: I prefer GSC over RBY, BWBW2 over DPPt, and SMUSUM over XY, so I guess there's a first time for everything. SV is just...worse in near every aspect from SWSH, and in general it hits plenty of new lows (no srs how can you create a worse gym than DP Fantina?! Tulip is just AWFUL)
Which is curious bc I have always found the second pokemon generation in a console better than the prev one: I prefer GSC over RBY, BWBW2 over DPPt, and SMUSUM over XY, so I guess there's a first time for everything. SV is just...worse in near every aspect from SWSH, and in general it hits plenty of new lows (no srs how can you create a worse gym than DP Fantina?! Tulip is just AWFUL)
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When leaks were coming out, the portraits we had of the Gym Leaders were pretty disappointing, but I ended up liking most of them. Going from a character perspective, Tulip probably is the weakest, but that puts her about on par with the best of the XY Gym Leaders (the weakest set of them in the franchise, IMO). Her Gym Challenge was pretty bad, but that's because unlike most of the others in SV, it didn't make use of the overworld (Ryme and IIRC Iono share this).
Gym Challenges haven't been super interesting for the most part for some time, and... maybe they haven't worn out their welcome, but it's gotta be hard to come up with something novel when you're getting to around 70 Gyms throughout the franchise.
At least Tulip's "challenge" gave us this moment:
Basically, I'm not judging Gym Leaders based on their challenges, because at best, they're a fun gimmick, and at worst, they're just a mild time waster.
Gym Challenges haven't been super interesting for the most part for some time, and... maybe they haven't worn out their welcome, but it's gotta be hard to come up with something novel when you're getting to around 70 Gyms throughout the franchise.
At least Tulip's "challenge" gave us this moment:
Basically, I'm not judging Gym Leaders based on their challenges, because at best, they're a fun gimmick, and at worst, they're just a mild time waster.
My favorite gym challenges are the ones that break down in your favor.
Was running out of time on this one and thought "maybe I can just clip through the wall."
Was running out of time on this one and thought "maybe I can just clip through the wall."