To be perfectly honestly, we really shouldn't be spooky plate because we can't switch into Mega Gengar or reliably beat it even with ghost Judgement, but aki0s is correct, at least Chansey gives the illusion of eviolite.
It offers more of a chance of beating M-gengar than non-spooky plate. Something like P-heal Yveltal would give a more reliable check for sure, but Imposter plate Chansey checks more of the threats you listed & doesn't compound already existing weaknesses. We will have to pick up an imposter or unaware user somewhere along the line & I see no reason why the slot should not belong to spooky plate imposter Chansey.To be perfectly honestly, we really shouldn't be spooky plate because we can't switch into Mega Gengar or reliably beat it even with ghost Judgement, but aki0s is correct, at least Chansey gives the illusion of eviolite.
Guy's audino
we cant use this unfortunately, as we already have an -ate userNomming what I consider the best threat in BH: Mega Diancie
Diancie-Mega @ Life Orb
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Mild Nature
IVs: 0 Def / 0 SpD
- Extreme Speed
- Boomburst
- Magma Storm / Spore
- Precipice Blades
This fits into our team really well, as it is a top tier threat that we already have imposter-proofed thanks to Ho-Oh. Precipice Blades destroys Registeel, and once most teams lose Registeel, Diancie will just win. Magma storm is good coverage for the rare LeviRegi, and handles shedinja. Spore can be a really annoying combination with atespeed, and beats Fur Coat Chansey. Anyway, spamming boomburst with this is just the way to go in BH, fairy is too good.
Making Registeel's 2nd moveslot Gastro Acid should solve that (unless Ttar has started to run Ground/Fighting moves).not gonna put out another set but I'm just going to point out that PH tyranitar can sweep the team after a Shift Gear.
It's not really necessary rn, no. But it was before Ho-oh was voted in. Last slot should obv go to an imposter mon imo. Since Chansey is taken:----
I'm going to be boring and suggest Imposter Chansey - Spooky Plate isn't necessary IMO since Ho-Oh already checks most Mgar and MMY.
please stopIt's not really necessary rn, no. But it was before Ho-oh was voted in. Last slot should obv go to an imposter mon imo. Since Chansey is taken:
Pikachu @ Light Ball
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Skill Swap
- Parting Shot
- King's Shield
Moves are p much filler besides Skill swap. Imposters set up sweepers & kek's them.
I have the right to nominate what I want, gtfo. You don't have to vote for it.please stop
I have the right to nominate what I want, gtfo. You don't have to vote for it.
What.]But seriously check out the latest pages of this thread, it is discussed how Pikachu is trash in BH and should never be used on a serious team.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/balanced-hackmons-viability-ranking.3547823/page-7
quantum tesseract said:Lucky punch Chansey is a terrible gimmick that has no reason to exist, while Imposterchu has a role. Its like comparing deoxys-a with mega alakazam- one of them is decent but with some serious flaws, one of them should never be used. Lucky punch is the definition of inconsistant.
Looking at it from a mathematical perspective- Lucky Punch raises the crit chance from 1/16 to 1/4. Thats an increase of 1/16, out of 50% that crits boost. Thats a 9% increase- for the record, the terribad items of muscle band and wise glasses boost 10. Sure it boosts both sides, but no chansey should lucky punch. Eviolite will always be better, as will a spooky plate, a choice scarf, safety goggles. In terms of damage boosting imposters, your best options are pikachu- Which is way better than you give it credit for- and band/specs/lo chansey/blisey. Of these, I know which one I want to use.
Your own set is an example of this. pikachu has a (small) chance to 2hko after poison heal if you try and wall, as well as 1 92% if we aren't poisoned yet. Chansey has 0, no matter how often it crits..
Just by existing, Pikachu puts an incredible pressure, both in teambuilding and in battle. Think your Giratina counters protean MMX? Welcome to Light Ball PBlades- it 2hkos. Want to run unaware Maudino to wall your Tail Glow Mray? 252 SpA Light Ball Pikachu (Rayquaza) Oblivion Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Audino: 204-241 (49.7 - 58.7%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKOThe ko's depend (obviously) on what you imposter into, but any non immunity/resistance based imposterproofing just fails flat out. some examples, however, are:
252+ Atk Light Ball Pixilate Pikachu (Diancie) Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gengar: 262-309 (100 - 117.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Light Ball Aerilate Pikachu (Mray) Boomburst vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Giratina: 483-568 (96 - 112.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Light Ball Aerilate Pikachu (Mray) Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Tyranitar: 324-382 (95 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
If there is a partular calc you are looking for, feel free to ask.
Woops i guess i linked the wrong thread, i'll edit later if i can be bothered, it's somewhere in the BH suspect thread iircWhat.
First off, it doesn't say that on the page you linked, at all, or even in the last two pages except for one poster who isn't really the best of sources.
Secondly, it is way better than it is ranked, due to actually being good. While it isn't some kind of godlike mon (despite what I might say at times), it is heavily underrated and is viable. I argued for it earlier in this thread, so I'l link it again, plus a bit more.
Just by existing, Pikachu puts an incredible pressure, both in teambuilding and in battle. Think your Giratina counters protean MMX? Welcome to Light Ball PBlades- it 2hkos. Want to run unaware Maudino to wall your Tail Glow Mray? 252 SpA Light Ball Pikachu (Rayquaza) Oblivion Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Audino: 204-241 (49.7 - 58.7%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
If you want to wall imposter Pikachu, you either need immunities, or mons so weak you can avoid the 4hko from imposters of, which isn't always doable. This almost always leaves sturdy Shed, which is killed by rocks. If they have an imposter Pikachu, you cant afford to send out your most powerful mons until its gone, you can't KO mons with your MMY's secret sword (because then Pikachu can come in and potentially win), you cant bring in your fakespeed Diancie safely- especially since Pikachu has just enough bulk (hitting 274) to have similar hp to common offense mons such as the aforsaid Diancie (241). Even if Pikachu imposters a wall, it isn't useless- Pikachu impostering dragon tail Giratina still hits like a truck.
Furthermore, you are relying on ad hominem attacks, like calling the person you are arguing with salty, rather than actually making a claim and then supporting it. If you want to disagree with people, fine, but please use arguments instead of reaction pictures.
Is it S-Rank, like Chansey, who can be run on nearly every team? No. But is it a viable mon with a major niche that can be run? Yes, absolutely. I suggest you try it- it might even surprise you.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/balanced-hackmons-suspects-and-bans.3566051/page-2Woops i guess i linked the wrong thread, i'll edit later if i can be bothered, it's somewhere in the BH suspect thread iirc
The main reason i didn't retort with a proper argument is that it's already been argued to death on why Pikachu isn't viable. I figured it would be more efficient to link him to the thread instead of cluttering this thread with a run-down argument.
I wasn't resorting to ad hominem with that salty image, i like to call it satire. Also just because I showed someone else's argument rather than my own unique argument, doesn't mean the argument i presented you with is any less valid.