Ice BeamThere is no reason to run kyube over zekrom btw. Kyurem's inferior to zekrom in pretty much every way in terms of movepool, stat distribution and typing.
I was gonna say that Dragon hits most of the same stuff, but how common do you guys think Landorus is going to be?Ice Beam
Zekrom is walled by Groudon, ties with the rest of the base 90 group with little flexibility as far as EVing goes and doesn't break many extra important threats since Outrage is not viable in doubles.There is no reason to run kyube over zekrom btw. Kyurem's inferior to zekrom in pretty much every way in terms of movepool, stat distribution and typing.
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4 SpA Life Orb Teravolt Zekrom Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Groudon: 234-277 (68.6 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKOZekrom is walled by Groudon, ties with the rest of the base 90 group with little flexibility as far as EVing goes and doesn't break many extra important threats since Outrage is not viable in doubles.
I'd really like people to be more specific with what they think makes whatever better than my suggestion instead of one-liners knocking the idea. It's a pet peeve when you claim "movepool, stat distribution, and typing" are better without providing context within the meta. I provided calcs and more justification and you're just posting "matter-of-fact" without any elaboration.
0 HP / 0 SpD Groudon is not realistic. At all.4 SpA Life Orb Teravolt Zekrom Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Groudon: 234-277 (68.6 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Don't put words into my mouth because that's not what I said at all. Kyurem having a better speed tier does not mean that being base 90 is bad. It is, however, a benefit that Kyurem possesses as a plus. Being able to act first benefits it in a lot of matchups.and with your logic, every base 90 is bad because they all share a speed tier which is a laughable concept just fyi.
I've played doubles before and I'm not stupid. Team support does mean a lot, and in fact I acknowledged that if you want Tailwind you should run Zekrom. However, team support is not objectively better than a mixed attacker. If you're going to argue on grounds of team support, then yes, Zekrom is better than Kyurem-B. Objectively better overall? That's getting into apples and oranges territory.Zekrom has bolt strike/tailwind/volt switch/some dragon move here while possessing a non shitty offensive and defensive typing and elec/dragon hits pretty much everything relevant bar fairyceus/ferrothorn both of which aren't really viable in the current battle spot. Kyube has essentially nothing in comparison. Kyu-w is more fair but eh, lack of defensive synergy + team support is what really kills it.
inb4teamsupportmeanshit.
Groudon, outrunning the base 90 tier with the exception of Scarf Kyogre (or Scarf whatever) but it resists every single move of the former & OHKOing nearly all but Dialga & Giratina (but Zekrom can't either). You have also sidestepped my own, similar question to you.what are these "important" threats that krom fails to break that kyube/kyu-w can? just wondering. Absolutely zero intimidators can switch in on it and fairyceus/ferrothorn aren't exactly the most viable mons.
Yeah, if its frailty is a downside, then definitely replace it. It definitely needs support.....how good are screens/prankster users in this meta? idk. I'm glad you're giving it a chance though.Age of Kings Hi! I've been testing my team a bit on PS, and I just wanted to let you know that while Kyu-B is a very potent mixed nuke, it is frail with a defense reducing nature (I wanted to leave both attack stats unhindered to ensure max damage). Might just be because I'm an average player, though. I'll continue tweaking the nature/EVs and let you (and anybody else that bothers reading my posts, lol) know what solution I come up with. :)
because offensive don doesn't exist0 HP / 0 SpD Groudon is not realistic. At all.
just win all the speed ties ezGroudon, outrunning the base 90 tier
http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/09fbce42-43ce-4192-a2f7-093f89cbb066Is Battle of Legends all legendary or not?
tl;dr You may bring 2 ubers legendaries. Legendaries not on the above list, like landorus and zapdos, can also be used, and don't count as one of your 2 ubers.Players may use any Pokémon from the National Pokédex. However, only up to two of the following Pokémon may be registered to the Battle Box: Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde.
My only lost 'till the moment was against Shedinja, so that's the main reason for the HP Flying and Flamethrower.Arceus @ Choice Band
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- ExtremeSpeed
- Shadow Force
- Earthquake
- Trick
Juan (Ludicolo) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 4 HP / 132 Def / 172 SpA / 4 SpD / 196 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Fake Out
Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- King's Shield
- Shadow Sneak
- Iron Head
- Wide Guard
Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Water Spout
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
- Scald
Thundurus (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt
- Thunder Wave
Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Lightningrod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Protect
- Thunder
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
"Groudon, outrunning the base 90 tier with the exception of Scarf Kyogre (or Scarf whatever) but it resists every single move of the former & OHKOing nearly all but Dialga & Giratina (but Zekrom can't either). You have also sidestepped my own, similar question to you."Laurel, where did Age of Kings imply that Groudon was anything but 90 speed? The only point were Groudon is mentioned in their post is part of a list of things that Kyu-B handles better than Zekrom on account of having 95 base speed.
Looks like a team I came up with, except the Mega Manectric. Mind telling me how he functions? Also, aside from Arceus's Earthquake there is a lack of ways to deal with Zekrom. Have you had any problems with it?Hey guys, i was lurking the thread, but I can't stop myself from posting the team who I was testing in PS. Oh, and I'm relatively new.
I got 1324 points in the ladder. (15-1)
What do you think?
My only lost 'till the moment was against Shedinja, so that's the main reason for the HP Flying and Flamethrower.
Also Talonflame + Darkrai is a nightmare.
Any advice? I based this team in the who I used in a Premier Challenge in my country but adapted it to Ubers. (It's the R_Justice team)
You realize the second part is still on the topic of what Kyurem does and Zekrom doesn't, right? That being said, this will be the last post I will be making to smartasses."Groudon, outrunning the base 90 tier with the exception of Scarf Kyogre (or Scarf whatever) but it resists every single move of the former & OHKOing nearly all but Dialga & Giratina (but Zekrom can't either). You have also sidestepped my own, similar question to you."
I haven't seen any Zekrom in the ladder, probably they haven't realized yet that it's a great Pokémon.Looks like a team I came up with, except the Mega Manectric. Mind telling me how he functions? Also, aside from Arceus's Earthquake there is a lack of ways to deal with Zekrom. Have you had any problems with it?
The team is simply to use, it's based in the raw power of the Water Spout from Kyogre, and the great force to be reckoned who is Ludicolo under the rain.176+ SpA Ludicolo Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0- SpD Zekrom: 174-206 (43 - 50.9%) --
252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0- SpD Zekrom in Rain: 186-220 (46 - 54.4%)
I've seen loads of normal and 1 darkI'm curious, what Arceus formes have you seen? I was considering Normal and Ghost considering how large of threats they are.