Because it's good.I thought that the Focus Energy set was deemed to be bad; why is it listed on the set now?
I was referring to this post. What changed?Because it's good.
Set looks great Jukain, well done with the slashes. I don't think I'll ever board the hydro pump train, but I am also physically unable to gamble at a casino so I guess I just don't like taking risks ;)my take:
Rain Sweeper
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name: Rain Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Draco Meteor
move 3: Outrage / Rain Dance
move 4: Waterfall / Surf / Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
evs: 80 Atk / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
nature: Rash / Modest
quite plainly not all rain kingdra need to be mixed; kingdra with rd would probably run another special move. the flat mixed set, pump / draco / outrage / waterfall with a rash nature, is first. with the rain dance slash, you have surf / ice beam as options, and a modest nature.
i think the q is: do we want to tie other kingdra. i really think that'd be a good idea; say it's your rain team vs. another rain team, and you're down to two kingdras...that's not a scenario i'd like to lose, guaranteed. that's up to you guys, though, so i left the presented spread.
If it's too slow, then why not run Timid?Little question here: How the hell is CritDra even remotely viable in OU? It's too fucking slow, it beats stall and fails vs anything else. Fixing its speed with Agility/Rain Dance may sound cool but it's really not bulky enough to allow itself two turns of setup tbh. Please justify this, I'd like to know what makes it good enough to be anything more than a mention in OO.
Sylveon is a decent counter if it's kept healthy. Calcs are done with Sylveon's cleric set.This is sort of a bump but the main reason I'm posting is because the checks and counters are very different for both sets, and I want to see if anyone knows a hard counter for both sets.
Ah, thanks a lot CC. There's one. Isn't Sylveon slower than CritDra though? So it doesn't really have the chance to attack if it switches in on a crit Hydro Pump.Sylveon is a decent counter if it's kept healthy. Calcs are done with Sylveon's cleric set.
Against the Rain Sweeper set:
76 Atk Kingdra Waterfall vs. 244 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon in Rain: 127-150 (32.3 - 38.2%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Against Critdra:
252+ SpA Sniper Kingdra Hydro Pump vs. 244 HP / 0 SpD Sylveon on a critical hit: 285-337 (72.7 - 85.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Meanwhile:
4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kingdra: 288-338 (98.9 - 116.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Couldn't really find anything that hard counters Kingdra, though—no Pokemon seems to wall both variants of Kingdra.
It switches in on the Focus Energy.Ah, thanks a lot CC. There's one. Isn't Sylveon slower than CritDra though? So it doesn't really have the chance to attack if it switches in on a crit Hydro Pump.
Ah, of course. Thank you. Sylveon has been included in the checks and counters section.It switches in on the Focus Energy.
I'm opposed to this addition. Keep in mind that a super effective Flash Cannon/Iron Head is actually weaker than a STAB Hydro Pump, so it's not worth giving up additional coverage or increased speed.ive used flash cannon or iron head on my critdra set and it has worked well, this would obviously be for fairys that might be able to tank a scald or surf. It should defiantly be added as a slash for the last spot
You forgot life orb in your calculation. Here are the correct calculations.Sylveon is a decent counter if it's kept healthy. Calcs are done with Sylveon's cleric set.
Against the Rain Sweeper set:
76 Atk Kingdra Waterfall vs. 244 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon in Rain: 127-150 (32.3 - 38.2%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery