Smogon Premier League IX - Week 3

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Reminders:

On Sportsmanship
Note the sportsmanship infraction may be used liberally this SPL, and any unsportsmanlike conduct on the forums, in discord, or in opposing SPL team servers (I won't infract for you being a dick in your own SPL team server unless the situation is so extreme I feel I absolutely have to make an exception (consider basically any masterclass interaction ever)), will be grounds for an infraction. We encourage you to play semi-aggressively, but don't be a Masterclass.

~ Aldaron

On Scheduling Matches
I'm sure plenty of you have come across activity drama while scheduling matches. I'm here to reduce the arbitrary element associated with some of these decisions. It is entirely your decision to adhere to these STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS, but note that if you choose not to, I'll most likely ignore any pleading from your end.

YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR VM WALL IF YOU WISH TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS IS HOW ALL OFFICIAL SCHEDULING WILL BE HANDLED.

Once that week's thread is posted, you have up to 48 hours to contact your opponent ON HIS VM WALL and mention your timezone and exactly what dates, what time ranges you are available, and where you will battle. Note that the default accepted sim and server is the official server on Showdown/Smogon Tournament Server. You must provide at least 3 different time ranges at least 48 hours from the timestamp of your message, with at least 2 that are 24-hours apart from each other. The minimum and maximum length for 1 time range is 30 minutes, and the minimum difference between the 3 required time ranges is 3 hours. If you give 3 time ranges that stick with this policy, you can give any additional time ranges at any time you please.

NOTE THAT THIS SCENARIO INVOLVES RESPONSE DYNAMICS; THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL CONTACT FIRST AND SOMEONE WHO RESPOND...THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT FOR BOTH OF YOU TO ASSUME TO YOU CAN BE FIRST CONTACTS...WHOEVER CONTACTS FIRST IS THE FIRST, AND THE OTHER DEFAULTS TO THE RESPONDER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME OF YOU ARE DUMB.

Once your opponent has contacted you, you now have up until 72 hours after the week's thread has been posted (NOT after your opponent's message) to respond with times that are good for you. What this means is that if both of you spend the maximum time contacting and responding, you should have back and forth collaboration at a maximum of 72 hours after the round has been posted, with both parties given an additional 24 hours to prepare for the battle should it be scheduled as soon as required. If none of the opponent's proposed time ranges are good for you, you must respond with alternative time ranges.

The first opponent now has X hours to prepare for the battle (if the second opponent agreed to some time) or 24 hours to contact a TD if, for whatever reason, this second set of time ranges does not suit the first opponent. Note this should be an absolute last measure.

Once a time is agreed upon, please make a message on your opponent's VM wall between 10 minutes and 1 second before the agreed upon time and say you are ready to battle and then get to agreed upon location (regardless of whether or not your opponent sends you a response VM). Please protect yourself by making this message, as it makes decisions much easier. You will be required to wait for your opponent for the duration of the time range.

If neither of you contact each other before 48 hours after the thread has been posted, you're both opening yourself up to a potential no contest or substitution. If I look at the situation, I might just determine I'm going to no contest, or whatever based on however I'm feeling at that moment. Don't leave yourself and your team vulnerable to this.

Just because at anytime one of the responders does not respond within the given range does not give you automatic activity win credentials. If they don't contact at all on your VM wall up until 48 hours before the end of the round (note, I'm not going to take discord or sim messages as evidence due to how easily they can be doctored...so if you want to protect yourself, stick to the VM messages), then you obviously have activity win justification. You WILL contact your opponent in a timely manner. However, if they do contact you at all after the suggested response time and before 48 hours before the end of the round, you are required to respond before 24 hours before the end of the round with 2 1-hour time ranges at least 1 hour apart before the end of the round. The opponent, since he did not stick to the proposed response schedule, WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY AT ONE OF YOUR NEWLY SUGGESTED TIMES, so you have the advantage here. This obviously puts a bit of an emphasis on the last 48 hours of each round (as is standard operating procedure for most of our official team tournaments anyway), so I will try my best to keep the last 48 hours of the round as close to the majority of the weekend for as much of the world as I can.

If you follow all of these guidelines, you will a.) most likely get your match done with minimal issue or b.) protect yourself and your team from an undue no contest or activity decision. Yes, I hate activity decisions in official tournaments. Yes, I will do my best to prevent activity decisions in the playoffs (the qualifying round is fair game however and I will have no problem issuing an activity call here), but don't push your luck.

Here is an example of how following this would work:

Week 1 thread is posted June 7, 2013 at 12:00 AM. Its deadline is June 14, 2013 at 11:59PM. User A and User B are matched up. User A contacts User B on his VM wall on June 7, at 9:00 PM (47 hours after the thread was posted, so ok), and gives 4 time ranges: June 10, from 7:00-7:30 PM (22 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is only ok so long as at minimum 3 of the other proposed time ranges adhere to the requirements), June 11, from 9:00-9:30 PM (48 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is ok), June 12, from 6:00-6:30 PM (69 hours after timestamp of his message, so ok, but only 21 hours after the earliest time range that is 48 hours after the timestamp), and June 12, from 9:00-9:30 PM (72 hours after the timestamp, so ok, and 24 hours after a legal time range and 3 hours after another legal time range). The June 11 and both June 12 time ranges satisfy the requirements, so User A can propose his first June 10 time range as well. User B responds on June 10, at 8:00 PM (23 hours after User A contacted him, so ok), and picks June 11, at 9:00 PM to battle, which is ok because it is 24 hours after his own response.

You'll note I made most of my response ranges multiples of 24 hours, but also included 24 hours. This means I expect you to be able to check Smogon at least once a day. If that is not feasible, you put yourself at risk.

~ Aldaron

On Disconnecting and timing out drama
Ah, the big beefcake. I'm going to go ahead and put this out there: we reserve the right to judge any individual match on a case by case basis, regardless of assumed precedence set. If you don't like that, you are welcome to not play. Be aware of this.

That said, here is the main way we will probably handle DCs / timing out:

To handle all DC cases...you're gonna submit your teams before the match. Create a thread in the Team Submissions Forum with an import of your team, preferably using https://cryptobin.co/. You don't have to submit, but if you do, you protect yourself from the opponent taking a win. If you do DC (and you can't rejoin the battle) and you haven't submitted your team, your opponent will have the right to take the win. Yes, I'll most likely make a judgment call if he is on his last turn with 1 Pokemon at 5% and paralyzed and with you at 6 100% health Pokemon, because the only way to lose this is to misclick multiple times. However, if you're at 6 100% Pokemon and your opponent is at last Pokemon 10% needing to crit flinch you 6 - 12 times for the win, I'll give him the win if you DC and haven't submitted your team.

I know people like Philip7086 will beg me "to use common sense for a judgment call" for all cases and I would normally agree, but I am giving you all a 100% out by allowing you to submit your team. Basically, submit your team, and protect yourself and your team from any and all DCs. It's a simple procedure that removes almost all subjectivity from a decision regarding a DC. Unlike with the scheduling restrictions, all you have to do is submit the team your are using at anytime before the match takes place, and you'll have 100% protected yourself. Read this rule and understand this now before you join the tournament. Since I'm stating this now, I'm basically going to ignore you if you DC, didn't submit a team, and "had a guaranteed win." Expect it. Also note that I'm going to let the PLAYER (not the team), decide whether he is going to take the win or go another route (replay same moves, replay different teams, etc.).

To further ensure no funny business, if, in the case of a DC replay, there is any concern from either party about funny business, both parties have the right to request a screenshot of the current Pokemon's stats in battle. This is irrelevant for Showdown as you can simply rejoin a battle there, but PO allows you to see the currently out Pokemon's stats if you scroll over it with your mouse. Just hit PrntScrn (windows) while scrolling over it if requested by your opponent, preferably with proof that it is a screenshot of that actual battle (consider including the opponent's request in the battle screen in the screenshot).

Regarding time outs, they are a bit more complex, specifically because some timeouts are due to DCs. The best we can do for this scenario is say that there is some number between 1 minute and 2 minutes (which we will not publicize) that we will set as a limit for timing out, and if you timeout with more than that limit time remaining, we'll assume it is a DC, whereas the opposite is a true timeout. A true timeout defaults to a loss, while the DC timeout is prone to the DC rules (did you submit or not).

~ Aldaron


This should be a smooth ride if everyone follows the instructions above. (schedule via VM, submit teams, don't start drama for no reason)

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Indie Scooters (5) vs Team Raiders (7)

SM OU: FlamingVictini vs Gingy
SM OU: Obliviate vs Gondra
SM UU: Lycans vs Pak
SM RU: njnp vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Eternally vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: miltankmilk vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Mounts vs TDK
BW OU: elodin vs Jirachee
DPP OU: Go10 vs roscoe
ADV OU: Ojama vs BKC
GSC OU: giara vs choolio
RBY OU: Alexander. vs MetalGro$$


Cryonicles (7) vs Stark Sharks (5)

SM OU: London Beats vs Lednah
SM OU: Poek vs BHARATH_THEBEST
SM UU: HT vs dodmen
SM RU: New Breed vs Tricking
SM NU: ict vs Teddeh
SM DOU: Biosci vs Demantoid
ORAS OU: CrashinBoomBang vs Axel
BW OU: Funkasaurus vs bluri
DPP OU: aim vs ToF
ADV OU: danilo vs Kevin Garrett
GSC OU: sulcata vs Pleasure
RBY OU: Peasounay vs GGFan


Ever Grande BIGS (6) vs Congregation of the Classiest (6)

SM OU: John vs Blackoblivion
SM OU: Eo Ut Mortus vs Sabella
SM UU: Manipulative vs Sacri'
SM RU: Windsong vs Ajna
SM NU: Kushalos vs Pohjis
SM DOU: Jhon vs EmbCPT
ORAS OU: xray vs Znain
BW OU: Posho vs LuckOverSkill
DPP OU: Honor vs NightFox
ADV OU: Triangles vs thelinearcurve
GSC OU: d0nut vs Jimmy Turtwig
RBY OU: marcoasd vs Lusch


Wi-fi Wolfpack (5) vs Circus Maximus Tigers (7)

SM OU: ABR vs p2
SM OU: Trosko vs Eternal Spirit
SM UU: Cynde vs A Hero's Destiny
SM RU: soulgazer vs lighthouses
SM NU: Earth vs Hootie
SM DOU: marilli vs MajorBowman
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Nintendi
BW OU: SoulWind vs McMeghan
DPP OU: Void vs Tamahome
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs CALLOUS
GSC OU: Fear vs k3nan
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs Diegolh


Dragonspiral Tyrants (9) vs Alpha Ruiners (3)

SM OU: psychicmewtwo vs Cdumas
SM OU: z0mOG vs Empo
SM UU: Christo vs Bushtush
SM RU: SilentVerse vs Chill Shadow
SM NU: cb jose altuve vs lax
SM DOU: stax vs Croven
ORAS OU: Get this Money vs Hiye
BW OU: dice vs jacob
DPP OU: Bluewind vs We Three Kings
ADV OU: UD vs undisputed
GSC OU: Lavos vs idiotfrommars
RBY OU: JabbaTheGriffin vs ZoroDark
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Deadline is Sunday, January 21st at 11:59 PM EST.

Remember to submit your teams to the Team Submission Forum!

If I made a mistake with any matchups or names, please contact OP or myself.

60/60 matches completed
 
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z0mOG

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SM OU: FlamingVictini vs Gingy - will be a very good game, but i wouldnt predict fv to lose to anyone
SM OU: Obliviate vs Gondra
ORAS OU: Mounts vs TDK - had a great game last week

SM OU: London Beats vs Lednah
SM OU: Poek vs BHARATH_THEBEST - btb is a champ and poek's last 2 games were not the best :(
ORAS OU: CrashinBoomBang vs Axel

SM OU: John vs Blackoblivion
SM OU: Eo Ut Mortus vs Sabella
ORAS OU: xray vs Znain - good oras match

SM OU: ABR vs p2 - this match could end up being the dictionary definition for "USUM OU"
SM OU: Trosko vs Eternal Spirit
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Nintendi - bold predict but nintendi hasnt seemed at full power and kanto has been owning

glhf all
 

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ORAS OU: Mounts vs TDK - 51:49 two teams that are 0-2 in ORAS OU but got really skillful players for that mode. I think Mounts is finally gonna take a game as his aggressive teams should work well vs TDK.
ORAS OU: CrashinBoomBang vs Axel - 62:38 again a really really good one. I think CBB is gonna take it as he's on fire rn and more motivated and i personally also think that he's the slightly better player.
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Nintendi - 51:49 Kanto seemed really on point playingwise last week although being a bit unlucky and will get great building help from ABR again. Nintendi didnt play bad last week as well but goin with Kanto cuz hes on fireee.
ORAS OU: Get this Money vs Hiye - 65:35 the boi about to get the first w


Gl Znain, ur really good, i am hyped for this one.
We should be playing like Wednesday or so #nojohns
 

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gl hf to the wolfpacks this week; looking forward my game vs bobo, this might be the first time we play on the big stage despite both being around for a combined century

also particulary looking forward those games:
ORAS OU: Mounts vs TDK
DPP OU: Go10 vs roscoe
ADV OU: Ojama vs BKC
ORAS OU: CrashinBoomBang vs Axel
RBY OU: Peasounay vs GGFan
RBY OU: marcoasd vs Lusch

 
SM OU: FlamingVictini vs Gingy
SM OU: Obliviate vs Gondra
SM UU: Lycans vs Pak
SM RU: njnp vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Eternally vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: miltankmilk vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Mounts vs TDK
BW OU: elodin vs Jirachee
DPP OU: Go10 vs roscoe
ADV OU: Ojama vs BKC
GSC OU: giara vs choolio
RBY OU: Alexander vs MetalGro$$
 
SM OU: psychicmewtwo vs Cdumas
SM NU: Earth vs Hootie
ORAS OU: Mounts vs TDK
GSC OU: Fear vs k3nan
BW OU: elodin vs Jirachee
BW OU: Funkasaurus vs bluri
BW OU: Posho vs LuckOverSkill
BW OU: SoulWind vs McMeghan
BW OU: dice vs jacob
 

sam-testings

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Wifi Wolfpack vs Circus Maximus Tigers

SM OU: ABR vs p2
SM OU: Trosko vs Eternal Spirit - doesnt es play ru whats he doing here
SM UU: Cynde vs A Hero's Destiny - gonna come back with a vengeance after an 0-2 start
SM RU: soulgazer vs lighthouses - soulGOAT
SM NU: Earth vs Hootie
SM DOU: marilli vs MajorBowman - more like majorblowsmen
SM LC: Sken vs OP - Sken_n
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Nintendi - people doubted him coming into the season but he's coming into w3 hot with the 2-0 lets go
BW OU: SoulWind vs McMeghan - this ones pretty hype actually :o
DPP OU: Void vs Tamahome
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs CALLOUS - callous boutta narrate an L (love ur videos tho keep up the good work)
GSC OU: Fear vs k3nan
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs Diegolh - see the log below

[10:21 PM] sam-wolfpack: abr when ru starting in rby
[10:29 PM] ABR: ninjas 2-0 so not for a while lol.
[10:29 PM] ABR: if ever...

I'm getting better at this predicts thing, I got more correct last week :D
awoo :3c
 
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