Smogon Premier League VII - Week 9 (read post #313)

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it's last week of regular season and i finally spelled agamamneon's name right on the first try, Heck Yeah!!

As the host, the biggest thing you guys can do for me is just get your matches done on time and keep drama to a minimum. While this tournament is known for high levels of drama and excitement, just keep it between you and the other teams. If there is a problem, take it up with me privately on IRC or through private message and I will do my best to resolve the issue.

As a reminder:

On... Sportsmanship
Note the sportsmanship infraction may be used liberally this SPL, and any unsportsmanlike conduct on the forums, in #spl / #pokemon / any of the semiofficial tier channels, or in opposing SPL team channels (I won't infract for you being a dick in your own SPL team channel unless the situation is so extreme I feel I absolutely have to make an exception (consider basically any masterclass interaction ever)), will be grounds for an infraction. We encourage you to play semi-aggressively, but don't be a Masterclass.

~ Aldaron

On... Scheduling Matches
I'm sure plenty of you have come across activity drama while scheduling matches. I'm here to reduce the arbitrary element associated with some of these decisions. It is entirely your decision to adhere to these STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS, but note that if you choose not to, I'll most likely ignore any pleading from your end.

YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR VM WALL IF YOU WISH TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS IS HOW ALL OFFICIAL SCHEDULING WILL BE HANDLED.

Once that week's thread is posted, you have up to 48 hours to contact your opponent ON HIS VM WALL and mention your timezone and exactly what dates, what time ranges you are available, and where you will battle. Note that the default accepted sim and server is the official server on Showdown/Smogon Tournament Server, or PO if you're playing an old gen. You must provide at least 3 different time ranges at least 48 hours from the timestamp of your message, with at least 2 that are 24-hours apart from each other. The minimum and maximum length for 1 time range is 30 minutes, and the minimum difference between the 3 required time ranges is 3 hours. If you give 3 time ranges that stick with this policy, you can give any additional time ranges at any time you please.

NOTE THAT THIS SCENARIO INVOLVES RESPONSE DYNAMICS; THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL CONTACT FIRST AND SOMEONE WHO RESPOND...THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT FOR BOTH OF YOU TO ASSUME TO YOU CAN BE FIRST CONTACTS...WHOEVER CONTACTS FIRST IS THE FIRST, AND THE OTHER DEFAULTS TO THE RESPONDER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME OF YOU ARE DUMB.

Once your opponent has contacted you, you now have up until 72 hours after the week's thread has been posted (NOT after your opponent's message) to respond with times that are good for you. What this means is that if both of you spend the maximum time contacting and responding, you should have back and forth collaboration at a maximum of 72 hours after the round has been posted, with both parties given an additional 24 hours to prepare for the battle should it be scheduled as soon as required. If none of the opponent's proposed time ranges are good for you, you must respond with alternative time ranges.

The first opponent now has X hours to prepare for the battle (if the second opponent agreed to some time) or 24 hours to contact a TD if, for whatever reason, this second set of time ranges does not suit the first opponent. Note this should be an absolute last measure.

Once a time is agreed upon, please make a message on your opponent's VM wall between 10 minutes and 1 second before the agreed upon time and say you are ready to battle and then get to agreed upon location (regardless of whether or not your opponent sends you a response VM). Please protect yourself by making this message, as it makes decisions much easier. You will be required to wait for your opponent for the duration of the time range.

If neither of you contact each other before 48 hours after the thread has been posted, you're both opening yourself up to a potential no contest or substitution. If I look at the situation, I might just determine I'm going to no contest, or whatever based on however I'm feeling at that moment. Don't leave yourself and your team vulnerable to this.

Just because at anytime one of the responders does not respond within the given range does not give you automatic activity win credentials. If they don't contact at all on your VM wall up until 48 hours before the end of the round (note, I'm not going to take irc or sim messages as evidence due to how easily they can be doctored...so if you want to protect yourself, stick to the VM messages), then you obviously have activity win justification. You WILL contact your opponent in a timely manner. However, if they do contact you at all after the suggested response time and before 48 hours before the end of the round, you are required to respond before 24 hours before the end of the round with 2 1-hour time ranges at least 1 hour apart before the end of the round. The opponent, since he did not stick to the proposed response schedule, WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY AT ONE OF YOUR NEWLY SUGGESTED TIMES, so you have the advantage here. This obviously puts a bit of an emphasis on the last 48 hours of each round (as is standard operating procedure for most of our official team tournaments anyway), so I will try my best to keep the last 48 hours of the round as close to the majority of the weekend for as much of the world as I can.

If you follow all of these guidelines, you will a.) most likely get your match done with minimal issue or b.) protect yourself and your team from an undue no contest or activity decision. Yes, I hate activity decisions in official tournaments. Yes, I will do my best to prevent activity decisions in the playoffs (the qualifying round is fair game however and I will have no problem issuing an activity call here), but don't push your luck.

Here is an example of how following this would work:

Week 1 thread is posted June 7, 2013 at 12:00 AM. Its deadline is June 14, 2013 at 11:59PM. User A and User B are matched up. User A contacts User B on his VM wall on June 7, at 9:00 PM (47 hours after the thread was posted, so ok), and gives 4 time ranges: June 10, from 7:00-7:30 PM (22 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is only ok so long as at minimum 3 of the other proposed time ranges adhere to the requirements), June 11, from 9:00-9:30 PM (48 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is ok), June 12, from 6:00-6:30 PM (69 hours after timestamp of his message, so ok, but only 21 hours after the earliest time range that is 48 hours after the timestamp), and June 12, from 9:00-9:30 PM (72 hours after the timestamp, so ok, and 24 hours after a legal time range and 3 hours after another legal time range). The June 11 and both June 12 time ranges satisfy the requirements, so User A can propose his first June 10 time range as well. User B responds on June 10, at 8:00 PM (23 hours after User A contacted him, so ok), and picks June 11, at 9:00 PM to battle, which is ok because it is 24 hours after his own response.

You'll note I made most of my response ranges multiples of 24 hours, but also included 24 hours. This means I expect you to be able to check Smogon at least once a day. If that is not feasible, you put yourself at risk.

~ Aldaron

On... Disconnecting and timing out drama
Ah, the big beefcake. I'm going to go ahead and put this out there: we reserve the right to judge any individual match on a case by case basis, regardless of assumed precedence set. If you don't like that, you are welcome to not play. Be aware of this.

Also, to protect yourself as much as possible from DCs and timer issues, play on Showdown (because it has an at least semi reliable system of rejoining after a DC) and make a gentleman's agreement to not hit timer and not be hour-a-move dicks.

That said, here is the main way we will probably handle DCs / timing out:

To handle all DC cases...you're gonna submit your teams before the match. Zebraiken and Oglemi, who are not playing nor affiliated with any team, will manage this team submission form. You don't have to submit, but if you do, you protect yourself from the opponent taking a win. If you do DC (and you can't rejoin the battle) and you haven't submitted your team, your opponent will have the right to take the win. Yes, I'll most likely make a judgment call if he is on his last turn with 1 Pokemon at 5% and paralyzed and with you at 6 100% health Pokemon, because the only way to lose this is to misclick multiple times. However, if you're at 6 100% Pokemon and your opponent is at last Pokemon 10% needing to crit flinch you 6 - 12 times for the win, I'll give him the win if you DC and haven't submitted your team.

I know people like Philip7086 will beg me "to use common sense for a judgment call" for all cases and I would normally agree, but I am giving you all a 100% out by allowing you to submit your team. Basically, submit your team, and protect yourself and your team from any and all DCs. It's a simple procedure that removes almost all subjectivity from a decision regarding a DC. Unlike with the scheduling restrictions, all you have to do is submit the team your are using at anytime before the match takes place, and you'll have 100% protected yourself. Read this rule and understand this now before you join the tournament. Since I'm stating this now, I'm basically going to ignore you if you DC, didn't submit a team, and "had a guaranteed win." Expect it. Also note that I'm going to let the PLAYER (not the team), decide whether he is going to take the win or go another route (replay same moves, replay different teams, etc.).

To further ensure no funny business, if, in the case of a DC replay, there is any concern from either party about funny business, both parties have the right to request a screenshot of the current Pokemon's stats in battle. This is irrelevant for Showdown as you can simply rejoin a battle there, but PO allows you to see the currently out Pokemon's stats if you scroll over it with your mouse. Just hit PrntScrn (windows) while scrolling over it if requested by your opponent, preferably with proof that it is a screenshot of that actual battle (consider including the opponent's request in the battle screen in the screenshot).

Regarding time outs, they are a bit more complex, specifically because some timeouts are due to DCs. The best we can do for this scenario is say that there is some number between 1 minute and 2 minutes (which we will not publicize) that we will set as a limit for timing out, and if you timeout with more than that limit time remaining, we'll assume it is a DC, whereas the opposite is a true timeout. A true timeout defaults to a loss, while the DC timeout is prone to the DC rules (did you submit or not).

~ Aldaron
Basically: use VMs to communicate and schedule your matches, don't be a drama llama (being an ATOMIC llama is fine), submit your teams, and we'll get along perfect.

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Circus Maximus Tigers (3) vs Indie Scooters (9)

ORAS OU #1: Escavalier vs Aurious
ORAS OU #2: ben gay vs xray
ORAS UU: dodmen vs xMarth
ORAS RU: atomicllamas vs Mael
ORAS NU: Blast vs Realistic Waters
ORAS LC: OP vs fitzy72
ORAS Doubles: majorbowman vs Biosci
BW OU: Asuya vs cosine180
DPP OU: Honor vs Go10
ADV OU: Sapientia vs Tricking
GSC OU: Earthworm vs Isa
RBY OU: Golden Gyarados vs marcoasd



Alpha Ruiners (7) vs Stark Sharks (5)

ORAS OU #1: ABR vs reiku
ORAS OU #2: TheEnder vs Alastor Law
ORAS UU: Hogg vs Hikari
ORAS RU: Bad Ass vs Meru
ORAS NU: Jarii vs Cased
ORAS LC: mad0ka vs blarajan
ORAS Doubles: deoxys speed vs TheFourthChaser
BW OU: SoulWind vs GOD MARTH
DPP OU: PttP vs Kevin Garrett
ADV OU: dekzeh vs Smurf.
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Conflict
RBY OU: Luigi. vs The_Chaser



Wi-Fi Wolfpack (7) vs Firebot Falcons (5)

ORAS OU #1: FlamingVictini vs Ary
ORAS OU #2: PDC vs Destiny Device
ORAS UU: Omfuga vs Christo.
ORAS RU: Braverius vs reyscarface
ORAS NU: aim vs Can-Eh-Dian
ORAS LC: fapkingg vs ZoroarkForever
ORAS Doubles: Stathakis vs KyleCole
BW OU: Laurel vs Leftiez
DPP OU: Cicada vs Tamahome
ADV OU: undisputed vs Triangles
GSC OU: Bomber. vs Mr.E
RBY OU: Bedschibaer vs Tesung



Team Raiders (2) vs Congregation of the Classiest (10)

ORAS OU #1: CrashinBoomBang vs blunder
ORAS OU #2: TDK vs IAmGingy
ORAS UU: kokoloko vs Calloflochie
ORAS RU: Esteemed User Ginku vs Ice Tea
ORAS NU: Kiyo vs panamaxis
ORAS LC: Kingler12345 vs Heysup
ORAS Doubles: BLOOD TOTEM vs Memoric
BW OU: LuckOverSkill vs Evuelf
DPP OU: august vs Aeroblacktyl
ADV OU: Veteran In Love vs Ojama
GSC OU: Picollo vs giara
RBY OU: Tobes vs Agammemnon



Ever Grande BIGS (7) vs Cryonicles (5)

ORAS OU #1: boudouche vs PokèManiac Livio
ORAS OU #2: Reymedy vs GeeMick
ORAS UU: bugzinator vs teal6
ORAS RU: SilentVerse vs Scythe.
ORAS NU: Finchinator vs Teddeh
ORAS LC: ZoroDark vs Star.
ORAS Doubles: BLINGAS vs Lohgock
BW OU: rozes vs Shoka
DPP OU: Malekith vs Sweepage
ADV OU: McMeghan vs Fakes
GSC OU: d0nut vs Colchonero
RBY OU: MetalGro$$ vs Alexander.

Deadline is Sunday, March 13th, at 11:59 PM EST.

If I made a mistake with any matchups or names, please contact me immediately. Also, post all of your replays / logs kthnx.

60/60 matches completed

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T I E B R E A K

The tiebreak is a Bo3 between the two teams tied for fourth place. Each team gets to select one tier, and the third is ORAS OU. Ruiners picked second, as the winner of the head-to-head matchup. Cryonicles selected DPP OU, and Ruiners selected RBY OU.



Alpha Ruiners (1) vs Cryonicles (1)

ORAS OU: ABR vs GeeMick
DPP OU: SoulWind vs Sweepage
RBY OU: Tiba vs Lutra

Deadline is Wednesday March 16th, 11:59 PM EST.

1/3 matches completed
 
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Mr.378

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GSC OU: Earthworm vs Isa We know how this one goes.
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Conflict Match of the week. Conflict is a bit better but it'll be great all the same.
GSC OU: Bomber. vs Mr.E Bomber was alright last week and Mr.E has misfortune.
GSC OU: Picollo vs giara He'll get the win this week but this one has potential to be great as well.
GSC OU: d0nut vs Colchonero He's been doing better and the team can really use the win here.

BONUS

ORAS NU: Finchinator vs Teddeh
 

Bughouse

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ORAS RU: Braverius vs reyscarface

its been 7 SPLs but rey finally realized the secret to a hot record: play lower tiers
 

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Ever Grande BIGS (11) vs Cryonicles (1)
ORAS OU #1: boudouche vs PokèManiac Livio - the gym isn't open this week in Italy
ORAS OU #2: Reymedy vs GeeMick - revitalized SPL god Reymedy
ORAS UU: bugzinator vs teal6 - "teal isn't even good" ~bugzy
ORAS RU: SilentVerse vs Scythe. - been the best RUer since before Scythe knew what pokemon was
ORAS NU: Finchinator vs Teddeh - easiest win of my life
ORAS LC: ZoroDark vs Star. - "I don't play LC" ~ZoroDark
ORAS Doubles: BLINGAS vs Lohgock - league and doubles champ
BW OU: rozes vs Shoka - the undisputed BW god needs no introduction or comment
DPP OU: Malekith vs Sweepage - "easiest win of my life incoming" ~maleith
ADV OU: McMeghan vs Fakes - Sam is here to tutor McMeghan in ADV
GSC OU: d0nut vs Colchonero - about to explode like he did on Spain in their last hour
RBY OU: MetalGro$$ vs Alexander. - someone's gotta carry the household if Zoro is losing

ORAS OU #2: TDK vs IAmGingy - hugo
BW OU: LuckOverSkill vs Evuelf - Evu is weak to memes

ORAS UU: Omfuga vs Christo. - you got a top UU player with masterful teambuilding and play and then you got Omfuga...easiest prediction of my life
 

Nails

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oops i fucked up, bada is on spring break

Tamahome i'll be subbing him out tomorrow early but i want to finalize who is coming in
 

Mizuhime

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Circus Maximus Tigers (0) vs Indie Scooters (0)

ORAS OU #1: Escavalier vs Aurious
ORAS OU #2: ben gay vs xray
ORAS UU: dodmen vs xMarth
ORAS RU: atomicllamas vs Mael
ORAS NU: Blast vs Realistic Waters
ORAS LC: OP vs fitzy72
ORAS Doubles: majorbowman vs Biosci
BW OU: Asuya vs cosine180
DPP OU: Honor vs Go10
ADV OU: JabbaTheGriffin vs Jirachee - easiest win of jabba's career
GSC OU: Earthworm vs Isa
RBY OU: Golden Gyarados vs marcoasd


Alpha Ruiners (0) vs Stark Sharks (0)

ORAS OU #1: ABR vs reiku
ORAS OU #2: TheEnder vs Alastor Law
ORAS UU: Hogg vs Hikari
ORAS RU: Bad Ass vs Meru
ORAS NU: Jarii vs Cased
ORAS LC: mad0ka vs blarajan
ORAS Doubles: checkmater75 vs TheFourthChaserBW OU: SoulWind vs GOD MARTH
DPP OU: PttP vs Kevin Garrett - DODRIOOOOOOOO
ADV OU: dekzeh vs Golden Sun
GSC OU: idiotfrommars vs Conflict
RBY OU: Tiba vs The_Chaser


Wi-Fi Wolfpack (0) vs Firebot Falcons (1)

ORAS OU #1: FlamingVictini vs dice
ORAS OU #2: PDC vs Destiny Device
ORAS UU: Omfuga vs Christo.
ORAS RU: Braverius vs reyscarface
ORAS NU: aim vs Can-Eh-Dian
ORAS LC: fapkingg vs ZoroarkForever
ORAS Doubles: Stathakis vs KyleCole
BW OU: Laurel vs Leftiez
DPP OU: badabing vs Tamahome
ADV OU: undisputed vs Triangles
GSC OU: Bomber. vs Mr.E
RBY OU: Bedschibaer vs Tesung


Team Raiders (0) vs Congregation of the Classiest (0)

ORAS OU #1: CrashinBoomBang vs blunder
ORAS OU #2: TDK vs IAmGingy
ORAS UU: kokoloko vs Calloflochie
ORAS RU: Esteemed User Ginku vs New Breed
ORAS NU: Kiyo vs panamaxis
ORAS LC: Kingler12345 vs Heysup
ORAS Doubles: BLOOD TOTEM vs Memoric
BW OU: LuckOverSkill vs Evuelf
DPP OU: august vs Aeroblacktyl
ADV OU: Veteran In Love vs Ojama
GSC OU: Picollo vs giara
RBY OU: Tobes vs Agammemnon
 

AM

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ORAS OU #1: Escavalier vs Aurious
ORAS OU #2: ben gay vs xray
ORAS OU #1: ABR vs reiku
ORAS OU #2: TheEnder vs Alastor Law
ORAS OU #1: FlamingVictini vs dice
ORAS OU #2: PDC vs Destiny Device
ORAS OU #1: CrashinBoomBang vs blunder
ORAS OU #2: TDK vs IAmGingy
ORAS OU #1: boudouche vs PokèManiac Livio
ORAS OU #2: Reymedy vs GeeMick
 

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ORAS UU: dodmen vs xMarth
ORAS UU: Hogg vs Hikari
ORAS UU: kokoloko vs Calloflochie
ORAS UU: bugzinator vs teal6

ORAS RU: Bad Ass vs Meru
ORAS RU: atomicllamas vs Mael
ORAS RU: Braverius vs reyscarface
ORAS RU: Esteemed User Ginku vs New Breed
ORAS RU: SilentVerse vs Scythe.

ADV OU: JabbaTheGriffin vs Jirachee
ADV OU: dekzeh vs Golden Sun
ADV OU: undisputed vs Triangles
ADV OU: Veteran In Love vs Ojama
ADV OU: McMeghan vs Fakes
 
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