Idk bout the bottle caps lol its probably faster to just breed a pokemon than get one all the way to 100
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Rowlet, Dartrix, Decidueye Discussion
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I definitely see Decidueye's best hope in the higher tiers as a pivot, much like Celebi with a better typing, either with Baton Pass or U-Turn/Defog. Spirit Shackle really carves it a niche though.
Decidueye @ Leftovers
Ability: Long Reach / Overgrow
- Spirit Shackle / Shadow Ball
- Roost
- U-Turn / Baton Pass
- Defog / Swords Dance / Nasty Plot
Not sure about EVs, but I'd imagine 252 HP, 128 Spe to beat 68 Spe Heatran. Then the other 128 could go into an attack or defense stat, probably defense, with a boosting nature.
Also, is Decidueye the first Ghost-type to not learn Will-O-Wisp?
Golett line.
Froslass, damn it.
Decidueye @ Leftovers
Ability: Long Reach / Overgrow
- Spirit Shackle / Shadow Ball
- Roost
- U-Turn / Baton Pass
- Defog / Swords Dance / Nasty Plot
Not sure about EVs, but I'd imagine 252 HP, 128 Spe to beat 68 Spe Heatran. Then the other 128 could go into an attack or defense stat, probably defense, with a boosting nature.
Golett line.
Froslass, damn it.
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I normally level my in-game party to 100, which is why I want a good nature for Rowlet, at least until its HA is released.
yeah I usually dont which is why for me personally bottle caps mean nothing...hell if I get some I would even trade em off for some random items like choice scarf, life orc etc
Wow. I think I just decided how i'll initiate battle bond for Ash-Greninja! this will save me the hassle of needing to place a Z-Crystal in his item slot. Can't wait to experiment with that combination.
Wut? If this is true its a pretty big deal but I can't imagine it is
Um, that's huge. Can anyone confirm this?
There is with Pkhex.
Not that I can test it right now (it's the kind of testing that would only really work in online/local battles).
Yeah test this ASAP. If it works like that, we may have just found a Pokémon that can be banned on OU
Good point, I can see something like Decidueye+Dugtrio/Magnezone+Clefable working, especially against things like Heatran which will tend to switch into Decidueye, then change to Dugtrio and kill so you can set up with Clef, it sounds good for me in paper.
I'm trying to brew with this idea quite a bit. This trio certainly wants a set up mon that can benefit from the removal of one of the trapped mons. First thought is a steel type, maybe mega-metagross or something along those lines. Mega-Diancie also sounds plausible as well for synergy
You mean a move that can be banned. Decidueye itself has nothing ban worthy other then access to Spirit Shackle
Good to know. This was always most likely the case but still now we put all the rumors to rest. It's still a very useful move.
Yea a steel type would certainly appreciate the removal of fire types and other steel types and that's exactly what this combo excels at. Dhelmise could also work in this instead of Decidueye but I think Decidueye is generally going to be better because of his much better move pool but some teams might want Dhelmise for his higher defense/attack and pseudo triple STAB.
Maybe you go all in on trapping though and run Decidueye, Dhelmise, Dugtrio, and Magnezone lol.
i think that in double/triple trappers teams decidueye will want to scout with u turn the counter the very first turn instead of pulling a spirit shackle, say if heatran comes in, then dugtrio traps it immediatly without anyone having to sponge a heatran meaty attack, dugtrio and magnezone aren't exactly premier walls. add rocks and you already are gaining lots of momentum.
Obviously it will be mindgames and stuff, but SS trapping Tran and then u turning means that someone could take a powerful fire attack.
Obviously it will be mindgames and stuff, but SS trapping Tran and then u turning means that someone could take a powerful fire attack.
Small goriguiest is kinda fast (base 99)
RU
Yeay, but does like 6% damage
And 99 is not fast anymore, heck, 110 is barely good enough
UU minimun
UU but OU viable on the right team. His ability to lure and kill steel and fire types when paired with dugtrio/magnezone and just general ability to prevent double switching is enough give him a niche.
If your team doesn't especially care about steel or fire types or limiting the opponents switching you probably won't play him but if you care about those things he's a strong choice.
I see it being UU, possible niche in OU
Solid UU. Grass/Ghost isn't a bad typing, especially considering the amount of Water and Fighting types in UU. Spirit Shackle as of now also looks like a good move.