Format Discussion Pokemon Sun/Moon Random Battle sets

[DarkFlames64]

Hmm I get where you come from. There's not really an objective outlier like 'banned from ubers'... Could you do something like a vote perhaps? There isn't really much...

Geomancy Xern forces every ubers team to run at least 2 checks, usually a PDon and Steel or Fire type mon... Perhaps something around that...? I do know it's not the same, but I don't see another way to approach this.

 

[pokeblade101]

I have found a weird set in random battles where I had an alolan golem with return but not galvanize.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-638115657 This is the link to the evidence as Alolan golem with galvanize should have easily koed after that defense drop.

 

[DarkFlames64]

Also got a specs heliolisk with thunder, not tbolt. Thunder only makes sense on the rain dance set.

 

[RoyalGramma]

Has Necrozma's double battles set been addressed yet? "iron defense, automatize, trick room, and moonlight" is useless, what's the point of a +2 speed if I'm setting trick room, and by this point everyone knows its set up fodder and its a waste to attack it and they focus on the other pokemon. I've had it a least once every day that i've played for the last two weeks.

 

[sumwun]

Has Necrozma's double battles set been addressed yet? "iron defense, automatize, trick room, and moonlight" is useless, what's the point of a +2 speed if I'm setting trick room, and by this point everyone knows its set up fodder and its a waste to attack it and they focus on the other pokemon. I've had it a least once every day that i've played for the last two weeks.

It's more likely to be addressed if you post it in this thread.

 

[Jk Howling]

10/10 set, needs nerf

Yeah this happened fsr. Randbats loves me like that.
Would appreciate a fix. Not sure why it hasn't been, or if it was, why it happened.

 

[duck]

10/10 set, needs nerf

Yeah this happened fsr. Randbats loves me like that.
Would appreciate a fix. Not sure why it hasn't been, or if it was, why it happened.

You set up nasty plot, he switches blissey or chansey and you smack them with CC.
Best lure.

 

[SparksBlade]

can cacturne get dark pulse please? sucker punch as the only dark stab is horrible, and it has 115 in each stat so mixed set should be ok

 

[Grass Avenger]

Why dragon ascent is not an option in rayquaza?

I really do not understand, it's a completely viable attack and would also put mega ray in random

I do not know if the mega is banned, but it also does not make sense, since strategies like speedpass of ninjask and smashpass of huntail are allowed

 

[Adeleine]

Random Battles are PU-Uber only, so Mega Rayquaza (and with it Dragon Ascent Rayquaza) is banned. Things like Baton Pass are allowed since the ability to structure teams around/supporting them makes them overpowered for non-random formats.

 

[Deleted User 91486]

The ban of Mega-Ray doesn't explain the ban of Dragon Ascent, as it is possible to use a Dragon Ascent Ray without mega-evolving in Ubers.

 

[Quantum Tesseract]

The ban of Mega-Ray doesn't explain the ban of Dragon Ascent, as it is possible to use a Dragon Ascent Ray without mega-evolving in Ubers.

Thats claused in; it wouldnt be impossible in game, but as mray is banned from ubers doing so would forfeit the player the match so the option is turned off. In randbats, that clause isnt there.

 

[dogknees]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randomdoublesbattle-647788108

Turn 4, belly drum didn't cut the hp to the point where the berry could be activated via gluttony which defeats the purpose of the set. Could this be changed with some level scaling? Posting for a user without a smogon account :]

 

[duck]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randomdoublesbattle-647788108

Turn 4, belly drum didn't cut the hp to the point where the berry could be activated via gluttony which defeats the purpose of the set. Could this be changed with some level scaling? Posting for a user without a smogon account :]

Hey, please use this thread to make suggestion for doubles!

 

[sumwun]

What is the point in Scizor when it doesn't know bullet punch (especially when all its attacks are resisted by fairy)?

 

[{(•)___(•)}]

Add Piloswine to the NFEs eligible for selection but remove Superpower. (It's Eviolite-enhanced bulk greatly outperforms Mamoswine's and sets it apart as a noticeably bulky yet non-passive rocker.)

I agree, and while we're at it, there are some other NFEs that could perform decently well, especially with stuff like Unown in the mix. Magneton, Tangela, Dusclops, and even light ball Pikachu could be cool.

 

[Achelexus]

What are the possible natures and items of each pokemon? It's not in the document.

 

[duck]

What are the possible natures and items of each pokemon? It's not in the document.

All of them have a neutral nature (like Hardy), 31 ivs except 0 in speed for trick room and gyroball users and 0 in atk for special attackers. The only exeption i can think of is unown who i think it is modest.

 

[k.r.o.b.]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-652994110
Pressure Bisharp. It makes absolutely no sense, defiant is so much better in almost every situation

 

[sumwun]

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-652994110
Pressure Bisharp. It makes absolutely no sense, defiant is so much better in almost every situation

It's for out-stalling toxic stalls like Pyukumuku and some Skarmory sets without brave bird.

 

[Adeleine]

I think it's more that neither pressure nor defog will come into play a majority of the time in randbats and both have minor use, so neither is massively prioritized

 

[DarthHubble]

Can we please drop Leftovers on all Deoxys-Normal sets? Give him something actually useful for such a frail sweeper like Life Orb or Focus Sash.

 

[Achelexus]

The Dedenne Petaya berry set is horrible, at least without substitute, you're almost never letting your health drop below 25%.

 

[Rarycaris]

I think it's more that neither pressure nor defog will come into play a majority of the time in randbats and both have minor use, so neither is massively prioritized

Defiant is useful outside of Defog, though. It counters Intimidate, it can turn your opponent's hax back on them if they score a stat drop with any of the countless moves that have a chance of doing that, and it punishes Sticky Web. These aren't situations that come up in every random battle, for sure, but they're far more numerous than situations where you'd PP stall with Bisharp of all things.

 

[Ryolain]

10/10 set, needs nerf

Yeah this happened fsr. Randbats loves me like that.
Would appreciate a fix. Not sure why it hasn't been, or if it was, why it happened.

Had a similar issue, I got 'Nape with NP/SR/Stone Edge/Flare Blitz. Will post the screenshot if needed.