OM C&C Workshop

Tomorrow. 6 PM my time (-7 MST). Be there or be square.

In the OM Room on Pokémon Showdown!
 
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unfixable was appointed Room Owner by Eevee General.
[18:05:49] #unfixable: i'm a vicious dictator
[18:05:49] #Eevee General: DON'T LET IT GO TO YOUR HEAD
[18:05:58] #unfixable: okay firstly, to ban imas234
[18:06:08] #unfixable: anyways
[18:06:11] #unfixable: let's get into the workshop guys!
[18:06:21] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/other-metagames-analyses.310/
[18:06:30] #unfixable: here is our main forum, the other metagames analyses
[18:06:44] #unfixable: but before i delve into the om c&c aspects, let's briefly go over what exactly "c&c" is
[18:06:58] #unfixable: c&c stands for contributions & corrections, and it's where analyses for our smogdex go up
[18:07:02] #unfixable: so, for example,
[18:07:05] #unfixable: !smogdex cacnea
[18:07:17] #unfixable: the cacnea analysis written here was produced and fine-tuned in C&C
[18:07:39] #unfixable: but over in OM C&C, we do it a lil bit differently!
[18:07:57] #unfixable: you see, unlike other subforums, we host four types of analyses in ours!
[18:08:07] #unfixable: these are, as follows
[18:08:10] #unfixable: !om stabmons
[18:08:10] #unfixable: !om aaa
[18:08:11] #unfixable: !om bh
[18:08:13] #unfixable: !om ag
[18:08:22] #unfixable: we have respective qc teams for each as wel
[18:08:24] #unfixable: well*
[18:08:33] #unfixable: You can find those here:http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/our-qc-teams.3540224/
[18:08:52] #unfixable: also, please hold off PMing me questions until the very end, i am not able to respond!
[18:08:56] #unfixable: anyways, back on track
[18:09:04] #Eevee General: (you can pm me)
[18:09:12] #unfixable: our QC teams, or Quality Control™ teams consist of people who are very well-versed in the respective metagames
[18:09:24] #unfixable: you see, they're what keeps the analyses put on-site of the upmost quality
[18:09:29] #unfixable: let's look at an example here
[18:09:34] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/stabmons-weavile-revamp-qc-3-3-gp-1-2.3564055/
[18:09:45] #unfixable: this thread, by baconbagonz (:3) is a wonderful example
[18:09:55] #unfixable: see, Eevee General is on the STABmons QC team
[18:10:02] #unfixable: that means he goes through the analysis, looking for any potential errors
[18:10:14] #unfixable: by finding and correcting these errors, all of our analyses are able to be kept to the highest standards!
[18:10:29] #unfixable: that's what really fuels OM C&C
[18:10:32] #unfixable: along with our wriiters
[18:10:39] #unfixable: and speaking of writers, well how can you be a writer?
[18:10:42] #unfixable: it's actually quite easy!
[18:10:53] #unfixable: well, firstly, give the following the thread a glance
[18:10:54] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/guidelines-to-writing-analyses.3540226/
[18:11:12] #unfixable: anyone is able to write a thread, but they must first reserve it here:
[18:11:14] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/other-metagames-c-c-reservations-index.3540223/
[18:11:24] #unfixable: this is the index of what people have reserved, and where you go to post if you'd like to write
[18:11:36] #unfixable: however, you have to wait for myself or Eevee General to approve you, but it shouldn't take too lon!
[18:11:38] #unfixable: long***
[18:11:47] #unfixable: if we don't get to it in a relatively short period of time, feel free to leave either of us a VM
[18:12:07] #unfixable: after that, you post a WIP
[18:12:12] #unfixable: WIP Stage of the Analysi
[18:12:13] #unfixable: WIP Stage of the Analysis
[18:12:20] #unfixable: this is one of the most crucial parts of the analysis
[18:12:32] #unfixable: since we did not have any at the time, i made a WIP
[18:12:32] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/stabmons-hoopa-u.3564765/
[18:12:35] #unfixable: here's an example of a WIP
[18:12:40] #unfixable: notice how many bullets and headers are left empty
[18:12:46] #unfixable: well, that's on purpose! for the purpose of this workshop that is
[18:12:55] #unfixable: you see, the WIP stage is exactly as implied
[18:13:02] #unfixable: post your skeleton, and get the general information into it
[18:13:16] #unfixable: i've formatted my WIP to work in order and i've even began working on OO
[18:13:20] #unfixable: OO being other options
[18:13:28] #unfixable: i'll also be going into each part of the analysis later on :3
[18:13:35] #unfixable: after that, it's the...
[18:13:43] #unfixable: QC Stage of the Analysis
[18:13:51] #unfixable: this is where our previously mentioned Quality Control teams come into play
[18:13:59] #unfixable: because we want quality, we control it with our QC teams
[18:14:16] #unfixable: their task is to go in, find any errors / nitpicks, and correct them
[18:14:20] #unfixable: hence, contributions & corrections
[18:14:29] #unfixable: after each check, the user implements any comments into their analysis
[18:14:41] #unfixable: if they feel it's unjust, then they will reply to the QC member and explain their side of the argument
[18:14:55] #unfixable: but generally, QC members are well-versed enough where users will notice mistakes and go "ah, glad they made that suggestion!"
[18:15:10] #unfixable: once you hit two QC checks, you must write the analysis up
[18:15:15] #unfixable: this means writing it into paragraph format
[18:15:24] #unfixable: for example, this analysis here:http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/stabmons-terrakion-qc-2-3-written.3564438/
[18:15:32] #unfixable: this is a great example
[18:15:41] #unfixable: everything is nicely ready because eventually this will be going on site
[18:15:51] #unfixable: by writing it up now, QC can catch any final errors
[18:15:59] #unfixable: this is important since people often add new information in this part of the process
[18:16:02] #unfixable: to "beef" things up
[18:16:11] #unfixable: so it's important for QC to check to make sure everyhting is 100% accurate
[18:16:23] #unfixable: s/o Terrakion
[18:16:35] #unfixable: after this comes
[18:16:43] #unfixable: Writing [GP] stages of the analysis!
[18:16:55] #unfixable: going back to our weavile example, here:http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/stabmons-weavile-revamp-qc-3-3-gp-1-2.3564055/
[18:17:10] #unfixable: everything is up to date in terms of information, but we can't have grammar go unnoticed!
[18:17:23] #unfixable: the purpose of GP, or grammar prose, is to make sure everything in an analysis is grammatically correct to be published
[18:17:45] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/grammar-prose-team-queue-here-we-go-again.3489979/
[18:17:52] #unfixable: this is where the grammar prose team thrives
[18:18:03] #unfixable: all analyses are put into this queue for someone to check them
[18:18:16] #unfixable: and after two GP checks, to make sure grammar is completely thorough and uniform, the analysis is uploaded
[18:18:32] #unfixable: and finally your analysis is....
done
[18:18:36] #unfixable: and when it's done
[18:18:50] #unfixable: me or Eevee General will upload it to the site, and move it to a subforum called "uploaded analyses" so as not to clutter up the forum
[18:18:58] #unfixable: after that it's added to the smogdex!
[18:19:04] #unfixable: so, let's take a reently uploaded analysis for example
[18:19:06] #unfixable: !smogdex kyurem
[18:19:18] #unfixable:http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/kyurem/almost_any_ability/
[18:19:25] #unfixable: this has gone through QC, GP, and uploading
[18:19:33] #unfixable: as you can see, it's very grammatically correct
[18:19:38] #unfixable: filled with relevant knowledge
[18:19:43] #unfixable: and is fully functional on our website
[18:20:04] #unfixable: so now that we've gone over the basics, i'd like to go into something a little more in-depth
[18:20:53] #unfixable: okay sorry
[18:21:01] #unfixable: got a bit distracted by my comrade (dictator) Eevee General
[18:21:12] #unfixable: so what i'd like to cover now is this
[18:21:21] #unfixable: Am I qualified to write an analysis?
[18:21:29] #unfixable: the answer, 100%, every time, will always be: yes
[18:21:35] #unfixable: you can write an analysis if you would like to
[18:21:50] #unfixable: however, if you haven't been a good presence in the forum, or i doubt your metagame knowledge, it may take a bit of work to be approved
[18:21:59] #unfixable: but honestly, we want writers, and we will never turn you away
[18:22:05] #unfixable: we have non-english speakers writing for us
[18:22:10] #unfixable: that's how much we are willing to help
[18:22:21] #unfixable: speak any language you want
[18:22:30] #unfixable: the only thing you do need to understand, is the metagame
[18:22:44] #unfixable: if you've never played STABmons before in your life, i'd not recommend taking up a STABmons analysis
[18:22:51] #unfixable: and trust me, myself and the QC teams will notice
[18:23:03] #unfixable: we always reserve the right to reject an anlysis if it's deemed your knowledge is clearly not there
[18:23:21] #unfixable: however, this is a rare case, and normally you'll want to learn beforehand
[18:23:25] #unfixable: also i'd like to take a break
[18:23:30] #unfixable: user: Rhythms, has stepped up to share something
[18:23:33] #unfixable: [18:23:06] Rhythms: [18:22] #unfixable: if you've never played STABmons before in your life, i'd not recommend taking up a STABmons analysis
[18:23:34] #unfixable: [18:23:07] Rhythms: i made this mistake with rotom-w :<
[18:23:46] #unfixable: way back a few months ago, Rhythms had an analysis rejected because he had never played STABmons
[18:23:53] #unfixable: now, he's almost done with his first STABmons analysis, terrakion
[18:23:58] #unfixable: even if you're rejected, you'll grow
[18:24:17] #unfixable: Rhythms has grown an exceptional amount, and i'm pointing him out because
[18:24:18] #unfixable: well, it's true
[18:24:21] #unfixable: learn from your mistakes
[18:24:26] #unfixable: and finally, i'd like to give you guys a
[18:24:28] #unfixable: Now what?
[18:24:32] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/other-metagames-analyses.310/
[18:24:34] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/other-metagames-analyses.310/
[18:24:37] #unfixable: go write an analysis!
[18:24:42] #unfixable: now that you've collected all this information
[18:24:52] #unfixable: i'd love to see you guys in the reservations thread!
[18:25:04] #unfixable: now, for the final segment of this workshop
[18:25:08] #unfixable: before i do have to sadly end it
[18:25:15] #unfixable: i'd like to do an open Q&A
feel free to PM me any questions you have, and i'll gladly answer them to the chat! maybe someone else has a similar question?!
[18:26:09] #unfixable: and we have our first question
[18:26:14] #unfixable: what analyses are up for reservation rn lol?
[18:26:18] #unfixable: well, a very good question lol
[18:26:22] #unfixable: we don't have reservations lists anymore
[18:26:26] #unfixable: after some discussion, it was removed
[18:26:32] #unfixable: instead, we've decided that
[18:26:49] #unfixable: if you want an analysis to be written and you take the initiative, we're going to let you write it
[18:26:58] #unfixable: however, this obviously doesn't mean 'write everything!'
[18:27:04] #unfixable: since we don't want our QC teams overworked
[18:27:21] #unfixable: like we wouldn't accept a budew analysis for STABmons
[18:27:34] #unfixable: or a better example, something like mega ampharos in STABmons
[18:27:38] #unfixable: we want higher priority stuff
[18:27:53] #unfixable: and if there's anything you'd like for BH
[18:27:54] #unfixable: http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...servations-index.3540223/page-11#post-6625585
[18:27:57] #unfixable: (list compiled by Uselesscrab)
[18:28:12] #unfixable: next question
[18:28:14] #unfixable: i have two more
[18:28:15] #unfixable: then we're done!
[18:28:17] #unfixable: Can there be analysises on Pokemon that are banned in a certain thing like if Xerneas could Mega Evolve in Mix and Mega?
[18:28:23] #unfixable: well, this really isn't what analyses are about
[18:28:29] #unfixable: i'd highly recommend checking out «tfp» though!
[18:28:39] #unfixable: i'll direct you to this thread:http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/welcome-to-smogons-flying-press.3544811/
[18:28:45] #unfixable: this is more of an "article" thing
[18:28:56] #unfixable: and our final question before we call this gen 1 dragonite
[18:28:59] #unfixable: (a wrap)
[18:29:02] #unfixable: Hey, do you think it would be a good idea to make a list of all the mons on the VR that haven't had analyses made for their respective metagames?
[18:29:25] #unfixable: i actually think that would be a phenomenal idea
[18:29:34] #unfixable: i'll work on that sometime in the future if no one else wants to
[18:29:36] #unfixable: but if anybody, and i do mean
[18:29:40] #unfixable: literally anybody
[18:29:42] #unfixable: wants to take on that task
[18:29:43] #unfixable: go for it
[18:29:47] #unfixable: just PM it to me and i'll post it :)
[18:29:50] #unfixable: final question
[18:29:54] #unfixable: [18:29:19] lcass4919: will QC ever have vacations? ;~; im gunna be worked to the boneee
[18:29:55] #unfixable: never
[18:30:01] #unfixable: and with that, the OM C&C workshop is over :)!
[18:30:06] #unfixable: thanks for listening guys, i hope you enjoyed
 

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