Sports NBA Thread: 2023-2024 Season

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(1) Oklahoma City Thunder versus (5) Dallas Mavericks

“I’m getting a time machine and telling a Hawks fan that their draft pick will one day score 73 in Atlanta and then leave.” - Anonymous

Once Kleber went down, this series became a bit harder to get an early grasp on. Dallas doesn’t have the same lineup flexibility they once had, and they lose the only role player who shot well from three last series. Instead of playing Kleber at center for a small, athletic defensive approach, if Kidd wishes to go small, he’d have to play Washington at center who hasn’t logged minutes there. Washington is capable, but then Kidd would be forced to slide a small forward to power forward who also likely hasn’t logged minutes in that position too. Dallas lost the best edge they once had before the series even starts, and how you feel about Gafford/Lively Jr. having to play nearly 48 minutes of good center basketball around Holmgren should decide the series for you.

They’re more likely to be roamers off Giddey, who by the way is a potential x-factor for his shooting. Washington should get the main Holgrem assignment, but it is important that Dallas’ centers make up for the lack of lineup flexibility. If they do end up being on Holgrem through crossmatches or switches, they need to be able to move with his speed which I’m not entirely sure that’s possible. Holgrem is still mostly a playoff unknown.

The combination of Dort/Holgrem has been a great defensive duo. Luka/Kyrie may have their work cut out for them. How does Holgrem handle them in a drop or switch? I imagine with the combined experience of Luka/Kyrie, they’d feel comfortable going at the body of Holgrem since he’s on the lighter side as far as centers go. These two are some of the better rim finishers in the league, and I’d trust them over the talented rookie center.

Dallas has the option to rotate and keep Shai guessing with multiple guards and forward defenders. I’m less concerned with Shai’s individual performance and more concerned with the role players. He’s going to see many different coverages including traps, so Dallas’ ability to defend drives and contest three-point shots will be tested. Again, Kleber would make this much easier to deal with, but the Dallas frontline will need to be able to force Oklahoma City role players into uncomfortable positions.

All that leaves are the margins. Dallas clearly has the rebounding edge, and their center rotation need to take advantage. Oklahoma City wants to keep forcing turnovers to make up for losing the glass. Dallas is exceptional at taking care of the ball, so maybe Dallas has a possession advantage in the series.

It’s yet another coin flip for me. Oklahoma City is already difficult to think about because of their youth but great talent while Dallas loses lineup flexibility. I trust experience more than most people, so I guess Dallas.

Dallas wins if: Dallas takes care of the ball and win the glass. Dallas’ centers are comfortable offensively and defensively around Holgrem. Giddy bricks shots. Holgrem is no match for hindering talented offensive players at the rim.

Oklahoma City wins if: Dallas has turnover issues. Holgrem outruns, out shoots, and out plays the Dallas centers. Oklahoma City’s role players show up more than Dallas’. Luka/Kyrie are stymied by Dort/Holgrem.

Dallas in six.

(1) Boston Celtics versus (4) Cleveland Cavaliers


I'm just not caring about the eastern conference right now. Both of these teams are the poster child for Jekyll & Hyde. Who can be the least inconsistent? I wouldn't be surprised if Boston swept or had to win a game 7. I detest thinking about Boston and Cleveland, and now they're in the same series.

Boston in whatever they feel like doing.
 
(1) Boston Celtics versus (4) Cleveland Cavaliers

I'm just not caring about the eastern conference right now. Both of these teams are the poster child for Jekyll & Hyde. Who can be the least inconsistent? I wouldn't be surprised if Boston swept or had to win a game 7. I detest thinking about Boston and Cleveland, and now they're in the same series.

Boston in whatever they feel like doing.
What I'm hearing is that our coin overlord is correct about Celtics in seven.
 
Never gonna count out joker but yea they got punched in the mouth immediately in g1 and have yet to recover. I doubt anyone saw the twolves dominating them the way they have so far.
 
It's only one game, but the Cavaliers are looking severely overmatched. Donovan Mitchell can't play all five positions at once. Even if it's just a matter of rest, they only get one rest day between each of the first four games. It's not looking good.
 

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As a mavs fan I already put my money on who I think will be in the NBA Finals, Wolves vs Celtics. I don't think any other team got it, we'll see if I win or lose my bet :(

I been saying after the Mavs trade that I dont think they still have enough (I said best case scenario they get past round 1 but I don't think they have all the right tools, especially with Luka playing like absolute ass because of his injury [worst I've ever seen Luka play])
 
I'll give the Mavs until game 3 to see if they have what it takes to beat the Thunder but so far, they have worse three point shooters and turn the ball over. They even got killed on the glass. How??


Luka had some pretty bad defensive possessions. Coaches don't believe in his defense. He could of course improve like the last series but maaaaaan. I guess it's the knee.

Though it doesn't stop with his defense. The entire team as a whole have been bad in transition and guarding against drives. No one was capable.

If your centers can't play big that's it. No Kleber to go small vs small with.
 
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As you can see from the screenshot, I made this bracket on April 20. Got 7/8 first round series' right and the way things are going, I'll go 3/4 this round (but I'll lose my predicted champion).
 
It's only one game, but the Cavaliers are looking severely overmatched. Donovan Mitchell can't play all five positions at once. Even if it's just a matter of rest, they only get one rest day between each of the first four games. It's not looking good.
Update: It looks like he might actually be able to play all five positions at once after all.
 
Luka's knee and ankle really concern me but damn this team keeps fighting back to back big games from PJ. For all that talk about dort's defense man's just flopped and gone low after luka's legs all series smh.
 

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Luka's knee and ankle really concern me but damn this team keeps fighting back to back big games from PJ. For all that talk about dort's defense man's just flopped and gone low after luka's legs all series smh.
I think Mavs auto lose next game because Luka hasnt been right and unless Kyrie drops 40 I dont think PJ can be consistent I'm just being honest. It's the offensive rebounds that have been the hero thus far in this matchup.
 
I think Mavs auto lose next game because Luka hasnt been right and unless Kyrie drops 40 I dont think PJ can be consistent I'm just being honest. It's the offensive rebounds that have been the hero thus far in this matchup.
I didn't expect PJ to do it 2 games in a row either I appreciate what kyrie's been doing though he's been facilitating and playing hard on def while pj has cooked. We're def due for a regression from PJ and will need kyrie to step up which he's obv capable of doing with luka so beat up.
 
PJ Washington is totally capable scoring this much in consecutive games. Charlotte is my homestate's team, and he's been their best draft pick outside of Lamelo for the last half decade or so. Dude is athletic, can D up, and score if he likes his matchup. I always envisioned if he was on a competent team, he'd be the perfect terteriary player. The Michael Jordan of Tobias Harris.

For this particular game along with Lively and Jones, they are playing incredibly well defensively on their switches and guarding Thunder's drives to the paint. They're still winning the glass as well.

Even with Luka offensively struggling, it's more important that he has 15 boards. Luka understands at this point Kyrie is scoring better than him, so Kyrie handled the clutch baskets and Luka actually did the superstar thing and contribute in other areas like that key steal and the rebounds.

I say Mavs fans should be more optimistic about after game 3. I'm finally seeing the length and strength around the paint necessary to stymie Thunder's offense. Doing it twice in two games is a great sign.

OKC may make the potential adjustment of having Holmgren roll more to the rim or post. Shai could still have a breakout game too.
 
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PJ Washington is totally capable scoring this much in consecutive games. Charlotte is my homestate's team, and he's been their best draft pick outside of Lamelo for the last half decade or so. Dude is athletic, can D up, and score if he likes his matchup. I always envisioned if he was on a competent team, he'd be the perfect terteriary player. The Michael Jordan of Tobias Harris.

For this particular game along with Lively and Jones, they are playing incredibly well defensively on their switches and guarding Thunder's drives to the paint. They're still winning the glass as well.

Even with Luka offensively struggling, it's more important that he has 15 boards. Luka understands at this point Kyrie is scoring better than him, so Kyrie handled the clutch baskets and Luka actually did the superstar thing and contribute in other areas like that key steal and the rebounds.

I say Mavs fans should be more optimistic about after game 3. I'm finally seeing the length and strength around the paint necessary to stymie Thunder's offense. Doing it twice in two games is a great sign.

OKC may make the potential adjustment of having Holmgren roll more to the rim or post. Shai could still have a breakout game too.
Definitely agree he's capable of it he's just been very inconsistent on the offensive end but until Luka got hurt we didn't need him to step up just keep playing great def however he's answered the call in amazing fashion.
 
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I have a feeling that the Minnesota Timberwolves will win the title Anthony Edwards is so good in the playoffs this season 30 points 6.7 rebounds and 5.7 assists isnt a joke and even though they lost game 3 i have a feeling that they will win the series and the chip
 
I have a feeling that the Minnesota Timberwolves will win the title Anthony Edwards is so good in the playoffs this season 30 points 6.7 rebounds and 5.7 assists isnt a joke and even though they lost game 3 i have a feeling that they will win the series and the chip
If they can finish off the Nuggets, then I'll jump on the hype train. You can't ever totally count out teams in the playoffs, but the Nuggets seem like the toughest challenge that the Timberwolves would face on the theoretical road to a ring from here.
 

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