Done and done. Will write up now, but rest easy GP people, I definitely don't have as much to say as I did with Kyurem-W.Make sure you specify the "prankster users" section.
QC 2/3
To be fair, I did borrow this from last gen, but that's literally the only spread I've used, but outspeeding Garchomp and Palk sounds like a good idea and may be the alternative spread I've been looking for. Also, as a shuffler, Lugia should have a status condition to take advantage of, and losing his ability to shuffle is too great rather than being Taunt bait. In addition, Lugia's defenses combined with Multiscale screams wall imo, but I can see your deal with having hazards making Loogie more threatening, and it does, and I'll add more hazard users in Team Options. I can't irc at the time, primarily on weekends only if at all, but I can still update the analysis daily, but I'll get on with hazard emphasis.I was hoping we could figure out a ev spread before giving this the third check as I feel like this is just bowworing from last gen. I'm a huge fan of outrunning Garchomp (palkia) but I'm not sure what other people use. Also, I really dislike the idea of having a completely Taunt bait Pokemon in a metagame that Taunt has become so popular in. I think the sub slash should probably be put with the other Status options as the point of Sub is to keep lugiass in for shuffling. (although no Toxic when shuffling also sucks a lot so idk) There also needs to be a stronger emphasis on having hazards for Lugiass as it really needs those to be threatening. (overall, I'm wondering if the shift of this analysis shouldn't be Lugiass as a wall but rather lugiass as a haazards abuser cause it got a lot btter at that seeing as people most use defog now and not rapid spin)
Alright. I do think dealing with physical threats better is more of a better encompassment than dealing with Palk.I guess I'm too late but the spread is horrible. 196 speed isn't even hitting anything relevant, it's 192 speed that allows you to outspeed Palkia. However, I think using speed is going the wrong route with Lugia this generation. I'd just propose a Bold 252 Def spread to be honest. This gives you room to handle Blaze (esp with aero), Ekiller, Groudon, MMX among other much better, and be less multiscale reliant. Ho-oh is also semi-checked better by a Bold Lugia, and it should be intuitive why this is important (hint: you are removing your own rocks if you are defoging, and Lugia needs that support, so it makes opposing Ho-oh dangerous). If you are using Lugia you obviously want Defog support but it's not always possible to make room for getting that Defog off against offensive teams. The speed is helpful against Palkia but in all honestly Palkia is much easier to check that it used to be, Sylveon is a great partner for reference.
conclusion: because of new physical threats that are strong there is not really need or room to make lugia a mixed wall with the old great wall spread. a fast spread loses to physical overloading easier, and speed only allows you to check a few select special threats better (who has gotten easier to check regardless).
Changes made. Thank god for copypaste.Great Walls sure are great and walls.
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Returning to Ubersonce againfor the new generation (too much "once again"), Lugia must once again prove himself as the great (eh, maybe a different adjective?) wall he iscapable of being. Speaking of walling, 106 / 130 / 154 bulk is absolutely perfect for a defensive Pokemon like Lugia, and it is further backed up by a rare base 110 Speed, letting it naturally outspeed and cripple practically every relevant wall other than Arceus, a feat that not many defensive Pokemon can boast.Along with reliableReliable recovery in Roost and two amazing abilities to choose from in Multiscale and Pressuremakesmake Lugia an appealing package as one of the two Great Walls. However,there areLugia has flaws that holdLugiait back from doing its jobas it shouldperfectly. Though its defenses are astounding, itsdefensivetyping does not back it up at all, offering few useful resistances and multiple weaknesses to types like Electric, Ice, and the new offensive powerhousesinGhost and Dark, preventing it from walling as many threats that it could and can insteadcanbe taken advantage of by them. Also, its weakness to Stealth Rock prevents it from using Multiscale when switching in, making a good amount of team support required in order for Lugia to function properly. Despite this, Lugia still stands firm as one of the best walls in Ubers, and shouldn't be taken lightly if you do not carry a solid answer to it.
The Great Wall (it sounds way cooler like this okay)
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name: The Great Wall
move 1: Roost
move 2: Toxic / Thunder Wave
move 3: Whirlwind / Dragon Tail
move 4: Aeroblast / Substitute
ability: Multiscale / Pressure
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
nature: Bold / Impish
Moves
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As one of the two Great Walls in Ubers, Lugiadoes indeed havehas the arsenal of movesin orderit needs to do its job well. Roost can reactivate Multiscale ifyou areLugia is above1 / 2 HP50% health, lettingLugiait take a number of hits that many other defensive Pokemon would gawk at. Combined with the ability to cripple opposing walls with Toxic, Lugia can stall out a goodamountnumber of attackers or render most walls dead weight. However, Thunder Wave can be used as an alternative to Toxic if stopping opposing offensive Pokemon oritsLugia's own checks/and counters, such aslikeMega Gengarorand Yveltal, is a top priority, or if your team hasa ton ofenough Toxic users already, and it can turn Lugia into an effective parashuffler. Whirlwind is a very well-known move on Lugia, letting itphasephaze out most sweepers that would be foolish enough to set up in front of it, including Pokemon that are hiding behind a Substitute.ButHowever, Dragon Tailiscan be very annoying to the opposing teamcombinewhen combined with entry hazards and Toxicin terms ofas it adds to the residual damage, but keep in mind thatyouLugia cannot phaze Substitute users or Fairy-typesin exchangewith it. Aeroblast is Lugia's STAB move of choice,and can letletting it defeat threatslikesuch as Mega Blaziken (2HKO), Mega Mewtwo X (2HKO), and even Mega Gengar (31.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock).ButOn the other hand, Substitute can shield Lugia from stray Toxics, and can outright wall anything that can't defeat it, but this comes at the cost of being complete andtotalutter Taunt baitfromto faster threatslikesuch as Mega Gengar or Thundurus-I.
Set Details
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With the above EV spread, Lugia can take on a great deal of physical attackers such as Groudon, Extreme Killer Arceus, Mega Mewtwo X, and Mega Blazikencombinedwith help from the defensive buff from Multiscale. Coupled with aTimidBold nature, Lugia can do decent damage with Aeroblast while taking less damage from possible Foul Plays from Yveltal. However,a Jollyan Impish nature can be used if Dragon Tail isyourLugia's only attacking move in order to increase its damage. Lugia's two abilities,inMultiscale and Pressure, let it do two different things when it comes to walling: Multiscale can let it hard check orhardcounter most sweepers by preventing them from doing considerable damage to it, while Pressure can letyouLugia out-stall most walls in conjunction with Substitute, Toxic, and Roost.However, aAn alternative EV spread of 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpD can let Lugia become an effective mixed wall. Despite the specific EV spreads, Lugia's defenses are really flexible when it comes to investment, so you can invest in different stats depending on your team's needs without compromising too much of Lugia's overall bulk.
Usage Tips
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First and foremost, if Multiscale is the chosen ability, be very careful when switching inwith Multiscaleif Stealth Rock is present,butso try to keep Stealth Rock off of your side of the field as much as possible so that Multiscaleisdoes not get broken and Lugia's wallingtactics wouldabilities are notbe foiledcompromised. Also, be extremely carefulforof possible Toxic userslikesuch as Landorus-T, Groudon, and Yveltal, as Lugia absolutely hates status ailments of any kind, so switch into these threats at your own peril. However, wheninon the field, be very generous when using Toxic or Substitute, asavoiding Toxics orcrippling switch-ins or avoiding their own use of Toxic can be very beneficial to Lugia's overall effectiveness and longevity.To continue the topic of switching in, takeTake advantage of predicted switches to come in on possible setup sweeperslikesuch as Geomancy or Calm Mind Xerneas or Extreme Killer Arceus, as forcing them into a corner with Whirlwind can keep your team safe and maintain your offensive or defensive momentum.
Team Options
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As Lugia despises status, clerics can be used to alleviate this. The primary examplesof thisare Aromatherapy Xerneas and Sylveon, as not only can they cure Lugia of its status, but they can also deter Dark-types extremely well with their Fairy Aura Moonblast and Pixilate Hyper Voice respectively. Stealth Rock also presents a large problem to Lugia, so Defog userslikesuch as Giratina and Arceus fit this criteria the best, as they can help Lugia wallstuffopponents with Will-O-Wisp or Arceus' other support moves.ButHowever,a mainan important part ofLugia'sthe pressure that Lugia puts on opposing teams is its shuffling ability when hazards are up, racking up residual damage.So, naturallyBecause of this, other hazard setterslikesuch as Ferrothorn, Klefki, and Forretress or Stealth Rock userslikesuch as Landorus-T and Dialga pair nicely with Lugia. Of course, thethingsteammates that like being with walls like Lugia the most are thethingsones that like having opposing walls weakened by Toxic. Swords Dance Rayquaza and Kyurem-W are great offensive partners to Lugia, and appreciate having opposing walls weakened and offensive threats deterred, while they can defeat the Steel-types Lugia has trouble with relatively easily. Groudon can assist Lugia by fending off Zekrom and Tyranitar while setting up its own Stealth Rock for Lugia to rack up residual damagetoon the opposing team. Fighting Arceus can take on a good deal of Dark-types by itself,likesuch as Darkrai, Tyranitar, and Dark Arceus, while also checking Kyurem-W. Yveltal can deal with Mega Gengar,and candefeat opposing walls with Taunt, andcan alsobreak past most Steel-types with a Dark Aura-boosted Dark Pulse. Finally, Palkia can reliably defeat Kyogre,canfell most Steel-types with Fire Blast, andcan beattake down or cripple Yveltal with Thunder.
Other Options
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Safeguard is an option to shield Lugia and its teammates from status for a short time, but it takes up a moveslotin whichthat Lugia can use for other utility, and a cleric can heal the entire team of status anyways. Earthquake can let Lugia take onsomethe Steel-typeslikethat are immune to Toxic such as Dialgawhich are immune to Toxic, and can hurt Mega Blaziken and Mega Gengarreliably, but Lugia's base 90 Attack prevents it from being used effectively withaan Attack-decreasing nature if it is used with Aeroblast. Stone Edge can be used in the same vein to deal with Ho-Oh and Yveltal, but the same problem as with Earthquake still presents itself, and the accuracy isn't something to be desired. Recover can be used over Roost to keep the Ground immunity, but Roostcan letlets Lugia lose 3 out of its 5 weaknesses in Ice, Electric, and Rock, giving Roost more utility. Defog can let Lugia support its team in removing hazards, and Psycho Boost can OHKO Mega Blaziken and Mega Gengar.ButUnfortunately, Lugia's Stealth Rock weakness prevents it from utilizing Defog well, Psycho Boost does less damage if used repeatedly, and both are only legal to be used with the ability Pressure,losingcausing Lugia to lose the precious option of Multiscale. Lugia is an effective user of Calm Mind, as its bulk and Multiscale let it pick up at least one boost without trouble. However, Lugia's base 90 Special Attack is pitiful, and faces extreme competition from all Arceus formes as a Calm Mind user.But, usingUsing Lugia as a dualScreensscreens setter can prove very useful, as theScreensscreens combined with Multiscale make Lugia ridiculously hard to defeat, and it can reliably setitthem at nearly any point in the match. Finally, to cure itself from status and use its naturally high Speed stat, Lugia can utilize a RestTalk set, phazing most walls first with a Sleep Talk Whirlwind while also curing status.ButHowever, Lugia loses the ability to recover Multiscale quickly with Roost, and the coin flipmethod ofthat Sleep Talk presents can prove troublesome at times.
Checks and Counters
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**Stealth Rock**: Lugia hates Stealth Rock like the plague, as it ruins its ability to check sweepers well with Multiscale, hindering its effectiveness greatly as long as it remains on the field.
**Status**: Toxic completelyguts outdestroys Lugia's ability to wall threats by breaking Multiscale every turn, and it can killitLugia if it stays in for long enough. Paralysis also makes Lugia slower than pretty much every other wall,makingcausing it to lose an effective niche. Lugia also does not like burns, asitthey alsobreaksbreak Multiscale, but not to the degree of Toxic.
**Ghost- and Dark-types**: The ever-rising popularity of these offensive typesgivegives Lugia a run for its money. Tyranitar, Ghost Arceus, Darkrai, and Yveltal can all eithercrippleKO orkillcripple Lugia with their STAB moves or utility options (such as Pursuit, Toxic, Dark Void and Taunt), forcing Lugia out in fear orbeing usedusing it as setup fodder.
**Bulky Steel-types**: Steel-types are immune to Toxic and resist all of Lugia's attacking options bar Earthquake. Defensivevariants likeones such as Dialga, Ferrothorn, Bronzong, Jirachi, Aegislash, and Heatran can all hard wall Lugia, cripple itbackwithToxics of their ownToxic, or support their team with Wish or Stealth Rock as Lugia retreats.
**Mega Gengar**: Mega Gengar can easily deal with Lugia, as the combined threats of Shadow Ball, Taunt, Destiny Bond, and Shadow Tag can deter Lugia from even showing up on the battlefield. However, Lugia can phazeoutGengar out with Whirlwindandor Dragon Tail, can cripple it with Thunder Wave, and cankillpotentially KO it with Earthquake or Psycho Boost.
**Kyurem-W**: Kyurem-W can severely threaten Lugia as its obscenely high Special Attack andtheits abilityof ignoringto ignore Multiscalecanallows it to KO Lugia in one fell swoop of a Choice Specs-boosted Ice Beam.
**Zekrom**: Zekrom also ignores Multiscale,and itcan severely compromise Lugia's longevity with Bolt Strike, andcannot be paralyzed bypacks an immunity to Thunder Wave.AlsoIn addition, it can pivot out with Volt Switch when Lugia flees, gaining momentum for its team.
**Xerneas**: Defensive variants of Xerneas can outstall Lugia with Aromatherapy or RestTalk, but they can only hit back with Moonblast.
**Kyogre**: Kyogre can defeat Lugia if Stealth Rock is up and if Lugia switches into a Choice Specs-boosted Water Spout in rain. However, it does not like Toxic at all and can only defeat Lugia if Stealth Rock is up, or elseit gets out-stalled byLugia can stall it out.
**Mega Mewtwo Y**: Mega Mewtwo Y can Taunt Lugia,and can survive three Aeroblasts afterwards, but it cannot touch it otherwise unless Multiscale is broken.
**Chansey and Blissey**: The pink blobs can Toxic Lugia at their own whim, and they can heal offLugia's incoming Toxicsany Toxic from Lugia with Natural Cure, but they will lose one-on-one to Subsitute Lugia, as its Substitute only breaks after two Seismic Tosses.
**Prankster users**: Thundurus-I, Klefki, and Sableye can all cripple Lugia with status, and Thundurus-I and Sableye can use their Prankster Taunt to defeat Lugia one-on-one. However, only Sableye can out-stall Lugia as it is the only onewhoout of those three that has reliable recoveryout of the three.Overview
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Returning to Ubers for the new generation, Lugia must once again prove himself as the great wall he is. Speaking of walling, 106 / 130 / 154 bulk is absolutely perfect for a defensive Pokemon like Lugia, and it is further backed up by a rare base 110 Speed, letting it naturally outspeed and cripple practically every relevant wall other than Arceus, a feat that not many defensive Pokemon can boast. Reliable recovery in Roost and two amazing abilities to choose from in Multiscale and Pressure make Lugia an appealing package as one of the two Great Walls. However, Lugia has flaws that hold it back from doing its job perfectly. Though its defenses are astounding, its typing does not back it up at all, offering few useful resistances and multiple weaknesses to types like Electric, Ice, and the new offensive powerhouses Ghost and Dark, preventing it from walling as many threats that it could and can instead be taken advantage of by them. Also, its weakness to Stealth Rock prevents it from using Multiscale when switching in, making a good amount of team support required in order for Lugia to function properly. Despite this, Lugia still stands firm as one of the best walls in Ubers, and shouldn't be taken lightly if you do not carry a solid answer to it.
The Great Wall
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name: The Great Wall
move 1: Roost
move 2: Toxic / Thunder Wave
move 3: Whirlwind / Dragon Tail
move 4: Aeroblast / Substitute
ability: Multiscale / Pressure
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
nature: Bold / Impish
Moves
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As one of the two Great Walls in Ubers, Lugia has the arsenal of moves it needs to do its job well. Roost can reactivate Multiscale if Lugia is above 50% health, letting it take a number of hits that many other defensive Pokemon would gawk at. Combined with the ability to cripple opposing walls with Toxic, Lugia can stall out a good number of attackers or render most walls dead weight. However, Thunder Wave can be used as an alternative to Toxic if stopping opposing offensive Pokemon or Lugia's own checks and counters, such as Mega Gengar and Yveltal, is a top priority, or if your team has enough Toxic users already, and it can turn Lugia into an effective parashuffler. Whirlwind is a very well-known move on Lugia, letting it phaze out most sweepers that would be foolish enough to set up in front of it, including Pokemon that are hiding behind a Substitute. However, Dragon Tail can be very annoying to the opposing team when combined with entry hazards and Toxic as it adds to the residual damage, but keep in mind that Lugia cannot phaze Substitute users or Fairy-types with it. Aeroblast is Lugia's STAB move of choice, letting it defeat threats such as Mega Blaziken (2HKO), Mega Mewtwo X (2HKO), and even Mega Gengar (31.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock). On the other hand, Substitute can shield Lugia from stray Toxics, and can outright wall anything that can't defeat it, but this comes at the cost of being complete and utter Taunt bait to faster threats such as Mega Gengar or Thundurus-I.
Set Details
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With the above EV spread, Lugia can take on a great deal of physical attackers such as Groudon, Extreme Killer Arceus, Mega Mewtwo X, and Mega Blaziken with help from the defensive buff from Multiscale. Coupled with a Bold nature, Lugia can do decent damage with Aeroblast while taking less damage from possible Foul Plays from Yveltal. However, an Impish nature can be used if Dragon Tail is Lugia's only attacking move in order to increase its damage. Lugia's two abilities, Multiscale and Pressure, let it do two different things when it comes to walling: Multiscale can let it hard check or counter most sweepers by preventing them from doing considerable damage to it, while Pressure can let Lugia out-stall most walls in conjunction with Substitute, Toxic, and Roost. An alternative EV spread of 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpD can let Lugia become an effective mixed wall. Despite the specific EV spreads, Lugia's defenses are really flexible when it comes to investment, so you can invest in different stats depending on your team's needs without compromising too much of Lugia's overall bulk.
Usage Tips
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First and foremost, if Multiscale is the chosen ability, be very careful when switching in if Stealth Rock is present, so try to keep Stealth Rock off of your side of the field as much as possible so that Multiscale does not get broken and Lugia's walling capabilities are not compromised. Also, be extremely careful of possible Toxic users such as Landorus-T, Groudon, and Yveltal, as Lugia absolutely hates status ailments of any kind, so switch into these threats at your own peril. However, when on the field, be very generous when using Toxic or Substitute, as crippling switch-ins or avoiding their own use of Toxic can be very beneficial to Lugia's overall effectiveness and longevity. Take advantage of predicted switches to come in on possible setup sweepers such as Geomancy or Calm Mind Xerneas or Extreme Killer Arceus, as forcing them into a corner with Whirlwind can keep your team safe and maintain your offensive or defensive momentum.
Team Options
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As Lugia despises status, clerics can be used to alleviate this. The primary examples are Aromatherapy Xerneas and Sylveon, as not only can they cure Lugia of its status, but they can also deter Dark-types extremely well with their Fairy Aura Moonblast and Pixilate Hyper Voice respectively. Stealth Rock also presents a large problem to Lugia, so Defog users such as Giratina and Arceus fit this criteria the best, as they can help Lugia wall opponents with Will-O-Wisp or Arceus' other support moves. However, an important part of the pressure that Lugia puts on opposing teams is its shuffling abilities when hazards are up, racking up residual damage. Because of this, other hazard setters such as Ferrothorn, Klefki, and Forretress or Stealth Rock users such as Landorus-T and Dialga pair nicely with Lugia. Of course, the teammates that like being with walls like Lugia the most are the ones that like having opposing walls weakened by Toxic. Swords Dance Rayquaza and Kyurem-W are great offensive partners to Lugia, and appreciate having opposing walls weakened and offensive threats deterred, while they can defeat the Steel-types Lugia has trouble with relatively easily. Groudon can assist Lugia by fending off Zekrom and Tyranitar while setting up its own Stealth Rock for Lugia to rack up residual damage on the opposing team. Fighting Arceus can take on a good deal of Dark-types by itself, such as Darkrai, Tyranitar, and Dark Arceus, while also checking Kyurem-W. Yveltal can deal with Mega Gengar, defeat opposing walls with Taunt, and break past most Steel-types with a Dark Aura-boosted Dark Pulse. Finally, Palkia can reliably defeat Kyogre, fell most Steel-types with Fire Blast, and take down or cripple Yveltal with Thunder.
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Safeguard is an option to shield Lugia and its teammates from status for a short time, but it takes up a moveslot that Lugia can use for other utility, and a cleric can heal the entire team of status anyways. Earthquake can let Lugia take on the Steel-types that are immune to Toxic such as Dialga, and can hurt Mega Blaziken and Mega Gengar , but Lugia's base 90 Attack prevents it from being used effectively with an Attack-decreasing nature if it is used with Aeroblast. Stone Edge can be used in the same vein to deal with Ho-Oh and Yveltal, but the same problem as with Earthquake still presents itself, and the accuracy isn't something to be desired. Recover can be used over Roost to keep the Ground immunity, but Roost lets Lugia lose 3 out of its 5 weaknesses in Ice, Electric, and Rock, giving Roost more utility. Defog can let Lugia support its team in removing hazards, and Psycho Boost can OHKO Mega Blaziken and Mega Gengar. Unfortunately, Lugia's Stealth Rock weakness prevents it from utilizing Defog well, Psycho Boost does less damage if used repeatedly, and both are only legal to be used with the ability Pressure, causing Lugia to lose the precious option of Multiscale. Lugia is an effective user of Calm Mind, as its bulk and Multiscale let it pick up at least one boost without trouble. However, Lugia's base 90 Special Attack is pitiful, and faces extreme competition from all Arceus formes as a Calm Mind user. Using Lugia as a dual screens setter can prove very useful, as the screens combined with Multiscale make Lugia ridiculously hard to defeat, and it can reliably set them at nearly any point in the match. Finally, to cure itself from status and use its naturally high Speed stat, Lugia can utilize a RestTalk set, phazing most walls first with a Sleep Talk Whirlwind while also curing status. However, Lugia loses the ability to recover Multiscale quickly with Roost, and the coin flip that Sleep Talk presents can prove troublesome at times.
Checks and Counters
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**Stealth Rock**: Lugia hates Stealth Rock like the plague, as it ruins its ability to check sweepers well with Multiscale, hindering its effectiveness greatly as long as it remains on the field.
**Status**: Toxic completely destroys Lugia's ability to wall threats by breaking Multiscale every turn, and it can kill Lugia if it stays in for long enough. Paralysis also makes Lugia slower than pretty much every other wall, causing it to lose an effective niche. Lugia also does not like burns, as they also break Multiscale, but not to the degree of Toxic.
**Ghost- and Dark-types**: The ever-rising popularity of these offensive types gives Lugia a run for its money. Tyranitar, Ghost Arceus, Darkrai, and Yveltal can all either KO or cripple Lugia with their STAB moves or utility options (such as Pursuit, Toxic, Dark Void and Taunt), forcing Lugia out in fear or using it as setup fodder.
**Bulky Steel-types**: Steel-types are immune to Toxic and resist all of Lugia's attacking options bar Earthquake. Defensive ones such as Dialga, Ferrothorn, Bronzong, Jirachi, Aegislash, and Heatran can all hard wall Lugia, cripple it with Toxic, or support their team with Wish or Stealth Rock as Lugia retreats.
**Mega Gengar**: Mega Gengar can easily deal with Lugia, as the combined threats of Shadow Ball, Taunt, Destiny Bond, and Shadow Tag can deter Lugia from even showing up on the battlefield. However, Lugia can phaze Gengar out with Whirlwind or Dragon Tail, can cripple it with Thunder Wave, and can potentially KO it with Earthquake or Psycho Boost.
**Kyurem-W**: Kyurem-W can severely threaten Lugia as its obscenely high Special Attack and its ability to ignore Multiscale allows it to KO Lugia in one fell swoop of a Choice Specs-boosted Ice Beam.
**Zekrom**: Zekrom also ignores Multiscale, can severely compromise Lugia's longevity with Bolt Strike, and packs an immunity to Thunder Wave. In addition, it can pivot out with Volt Switch when Lugia flees, gaining momentum for its team.
**Xerneas**: Defensive variants of Xerneas can outstall Lugia with Aromatherapy or RestTalk, but they can only hit back with Moonblast.
**Kyogre**: Kyogre can defeat Lugia if Stealth Rock is up and if Lugia switches into a Choice Specs-boosted Water Spout in rain. However, it does not like Toxic at all and can only defeat Lugia if Stealth Rock is up, or else Lugia can stall it out.
**Mega Mewtwo Y**: Mega Mewtwo Y can Taunt Lugia and can survive three Aeroblasts afterwards, but it cannot touch it otherwise unless Multiscale is broken.
**Chansey and Blissey**: The pink blobs can Toxic Lugia at their own whim, and they can heal off any Toxic from Lugia with Natural Cure, but they will lose one-on-one to Subsitute Lugia, as its Substitute only breaks after two Seismic Tosses.
**Prankster users**: Thundurus-I, Klefki, and Sableye can all cripple Lugia with status, and Thundurus-I and Sableye can use their Prankster Taunt to defeat Lugia one-on-one. However, only Sableye can out-stall Lugia as it is the only one out of those three that has reliable recovery.
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