Doubles Ladder + Seasonal Stats

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Doubles Stats Megathread

Welcome to the one big thread for all things stats-related in Doubles! This is where our stats buffs hang out, waiting to pounce on any ranking, tournament or project to decompose it into numbers. Feel free to discuss any interesting trends you notice in the stats we post, suggest other projects to gather stats from, or simply call us out for being huge nerds. Note that this thread is here to encourage positive discussion, and as such you should try to help us work towards this goal (read: don't shitpost). It will also serve as the hub for each month's ladder stats.

Here are the current 1695 Doubles OU Ladder stats:
Code:
 Total battles: 88415
Avg. weight/team: 0.071
+ ---- + ------------------ + --------- + ------ + ------- + ------ + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Usage %   | Raw    | %       | Real   | %       |
+ ---- + ------------------ + --------- + ------ + ------- + ------ + ------- +
| 1    | Landorus-Therian   | 33.33180% | 21056  | 11.907% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 2    | Kangaskhan         | 31.02359% | 18326  | 10.364% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 3    | Heatran            | 25.97643% | 16175  |  9.147% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 4    | Talonflame         | 18.80229% | 24085  | 13.620% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 5    | Thundurus          | 18.54053% | 12226  |  6.914% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 6    | Amoonguss          | 16.78659% | 14903  |  8.428% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 7    | Keldeo             | 15.18730% | 6571   |  3.716% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 8    | Aegislash          | 15.16426% | 10785  |  6.099% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 9    | Sylveon            | 14.23685% | 18638  | 10.540% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 10   | Rotom-Wash         | 13.90630% | 14217  |  8.040% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 11   | Charizard          | 11.45791% | 22230  | 12.571% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 12   | Shaymin-Sky        | 10.67380% | 5149   |  2.912% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 13   | Cresselia          | 10.65186% | 8255   |  4.668% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 14   | Bisharp            | 10.53891% | 9113   |  5.154% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 15   | Venusaur           |  9.73904% | 12202  |  6.900% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 16   | Azumarill          |  9.68838% | 11414  |  6.455% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 17   | Gardevoir          |  9.03514% | 17071  |  9.654% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 18   | Gengar             |  8.64045% | 18000  | 10.179% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 19   | Scrafty            |  7.26485% | 7119   |  4.026% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 20   | Togekiss           |  7.21017% | 13686  |  7.740% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 21   | Diancie            |  7.15928% | 6982   |  3.948% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 22   | Terrakion          |  6.96672% | 6036   |  3.413% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 23   | Kyurem-Black       |  6.65434% | 4529   |  2.561% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 24   | Latios             |  6.65347% | 5007   |  2.832% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 25   | Breloom            |  6.65142% | 9321   |  5.271% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 26   | Whimsicott         |  6.15007% | 9233   |  5.221% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 27   | Mew                |  6.14660% | 4380   |  2.477% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 28   | Tyranitar          |  6.07749% | 12072  |  6.827% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 29   | Zapdos             |  6.05011% | 7195   |  4.069% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 30   | Garchomp           |  6.02070% | 16448  |  9.302% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 31   | Conkeldurr         |  6.01465% | 10170  |  5.751% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 32   | Metagross          |  5.96176% | 9882   |  5.588% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 33   | Hydreigon          |  5.87196% | 5977   |  3.380% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 34   | Suicune            |  5.56747% | 4803   |  2.716% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 35   | Gyarados           |  4.69134% | 10752  |  6.080% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 36   | Dragonite          |  4.65662% | 10710  |  6.057% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 37   | Ferrothorn         |  4.62762% | 9890   |  5.593% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 38   | Greninja           |  4.62033% | 9913   |  5.606% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 39   | Scizor             |  4.28547% | 10640  |  6.017% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 40   | Sableye            |  4.24786% | 11251  |  6.363% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 41   | Politoed           |  3.98254% | 10425  |  5.895% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 42   | Jellicent          |  3.84634% | 4804   |  2.717% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 43   | Excadrill          |  3.77952% | 6952   |  3.931% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 44   | Weavile            |  3.74418% | 6436   |  3.640% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 45   | Hitmontop          |  3.61045% | 3699   |  2.092% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 46   | Milotic            |  3.54420% | 6848   |  3.873% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 47   | Deoxys-Attack      |  3.50823% | 2180   |  1.233% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 48   | Clefable           |  3.17444% | 10141  |  5.735% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 49   | Serperior          |  3.16790% | 9642   |  5.453% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 50   | Landorus           |  2.97655% | 2426   |  1.372% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 51   | Camerupt           |  2.95457% | 3081   |  1.742% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 52   | Ninetales          |  2.84688% | 6116   |  3.459% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 53   | Mawile             |  2.73088% | 4877   |  2.758% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 54   | Smeargle           |  2.71109% | 3732   |  2.111% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 55   | Volcarona          |  2.66955% | 5947   |  3.363% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 56   | Thundurus-Therian  |  2.52288% | 4277   |  2.419% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 57   | Porygon2           |  2.49533% | 3587   |  2.029% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 58   | Chandelure         |  2.48915% | 5459   |  3.087% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 59   | Gastrodon          |  2.48588% | 4140   |  2.341% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 60   | Typhlosion         |  2.45759% | 3678   |  2.080% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 61   | Genesect           |  2.37642% | 1901   |  1.075% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 62   | Slowbro            |  2.28189% | 6973   |  3.943% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 63   | Klefki             |  2.25737% | 7123   |  4.028% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 64   | Rotom-Heat         |  2.23003% | 3181   |  1.799% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 65   | Ludicolo           |  2.22811% | 5621   |  3.179% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 66   | Abomasnow          |  2.22791% | 3030   |  1.714% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 67   | Arcanine           |  2.21802% | 8160   |  4.615% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 68   | Meowstic           |  2.19008% | 6595   |  3.730% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 69   | Blaziken           |  2.14767% | 4974   |  2.813% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 70   | Kingdra            |  2.12829% | 4575   |  2.587% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 71   | Swampert           |  2.10572% | 6863   |  3.881% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 72   | Vivillon           |  2.09744% | 1268   |  0.717% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 73   | Victini            |  2.04466% | 3436   |  1.943% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 74   | Jirachi            |  2.03048% | 4211   |  2.381% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 75   | Gothitelle         |  2.01022% | 4135   |  2.338% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 76   | Rhyperior          |  1.95952% | 2940   |  1.663% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 77   | Darkrai            |  1.95545% | 1344   |  0.760% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 78   | Manaphy            |  1.88628% | 2175   |  1.230% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 79   | Manectric          |  1.74417% | 6044   |  3.418% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 80   | Sceptile           |  1.68881% | 7390   |  4.179% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 81   | Mamoswine          |  1.66640% | 3731   |  2.110% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 82   | Raichu             |  1.65700% | 3135   |  1.773% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 83   | Latias             |  1.62118% | 2601   |  1.471% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 84   | Hariyama           |  1.50522% | 1725   |  0.976% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 85   | Tornadus           |  1.45123% | 717    |  0.405% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 86   | Clefairy           |  1.43676% | 1924   |  1.088% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 87   | Aerodactyl         |  1.42405% | 4383   |  2.479% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 88   | Salamence          |  1.38026% | 3540   |  2.002% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 89   | Gallade            |  1.30994% | 4260   |  2.409% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 90   | Aromatisse         |  1.22480% | 2461   |  1.392% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 91   | Aurorus            |  1.20489% | 1762   |  0.996% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 92   | Escavalier         |  1.20031% | 1716   |  0.970% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 93   | Pachirisu          |  1.18993% | 4246   |  2.401% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 94   | Goodra             |  1.18583% | 3945   |  2.231% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 95   | Lucario            |  1.16959% | 5679   |  3.212% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 96   | Blastoise          |  1.15514% | 5398   |  3.053% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 97   | Crawdaunt          |  1.14039% | 1989   |  1.125% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 98   | Dusclops           |  1.13713% | 2423   |  1.370% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 99   | Lopunny            |  1.08528% | 5957   |  3.369% | 0      |  0.000% |
| 100  | Staraptor          |  1.07186% | 3516   |  1.988% | 0      |  0.000% |
And here are some other stats we've gathered so far:
All of our Seasonals' data are analysed via the Droegkamp-Guan method, which is a fancy name for a pretty simple method developed by one of our users (Braverius) and worked on by another (Level 51). Since Seasonals are carried out in a Double Elimination format, each Pokemon is given an 'x' for a win in the winner's bracket, a 'y' for a loss in the winner's bracket, a 'z' for a win in the loser's bracket, and an 'a' for a loss in the loser's bracket. Pokemon are sorted, in order of importance, by their overall usage, followed by their counts of 'x', 'y', 'z', and 'a'. This method makes it easy to see at a glance each Pokemon's usage and performance in the various brackets, as well as other stats like its overall win/loss ratio.
More to come soon!
 
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Darkmalice

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What rounds have been implemented so far? There's lots of missing data, especially considering how many Pokemon would have actually been used. For example, I've used and won with Thundurus-T in most of my winner brackets rounds, yet there are no 'x's in the spreadsheet - Thundurus-T only has 2 ys, and 1 z, and I alone have used it more than just 3 times in this tournament. I also won an 'x' match with Mandibuzz, who is not mentioned.

[EDIT] Ok gotcha
 
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Stratos

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Ive tried to get the council to do it in the past but nooooo

Dont think its banworthy in oras tho, not that im rly ever against a suspect test
 

Stratos

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hi

suspect landorus-t

thanks
OK i was thinking about this and this is what happened

Nothing can really take Landorus-T's mantle as "best scarfer" once it's gone. Thanks to the removal of the only perma-scarfed pokemon in the Metagame, Shaymin-S is going to become perhaps the most potent threat. We'll see a meteoric rise in Talonflame to check Skymin, MegaGross, and other things Lando checked, but Talon is a lot frailer, and (importantly) can't check Diancie and other physical attackers with the same set (has to choose between Wisp and Steel Wing). Thanks to MDiancie, Landorus-T was already basically the only viable Intimidate user in the meta, so we'll also see a spike in physical attackers in general: Kangaskhan the obvious one, but one that also stands out to me is Excadrill (Yes, I think in a lando-free meta, sand becomes viable), which preys on the newfound popularity of Skymin, Talon, and M-Diancie.

To me, this meta sounds like a much more hyper offensive meta (and one with potentially more bans being necessary, either Kangaskhan or Diancie or Skymin will probably have to go—Kang because it would prey on the lack of intimidate and defense, Diancie because it's what's keeping the Intimidators that would check Kang unviable, Skymin because it makes speed too important) and that doesnt sound enjoyable :( i really like our current metagame's balance of power among the top tier pokemon, it's a pretty "centralized" meta i guess with most teams having 3-4 Tier 1's but tons of different playstyles are viable and it's very non-matchup-based, with most matches being decided almost entirely by the plays inside the battle. Banning Landorus-T is not something that would improve the centralization though; if anything, we'd want to suspect MDiancie (probably the prime culprit in the centralization) or Calm Mind Cress (the #1 pokemon at winning from team preview)
 

finally

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hi
i was wondering if there wqs a way to do correlation statistics
example: kanga was used in 50% of all games. cresselia was used with it 50% of those times.
or is that just a bunch of hand input data which is boring
 

Stratos

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hi
i was wondering if there wqs a way to do correlation statistics
example: kanga was used in 50% of all games. cresselia was used with it 50% of those times.
or is that just a bunch of hand input data which is boring
you could do it but it would take exponentially more time since level 51 is doing all this by hand
 

Stratos

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i put the 1695 ladder stats in the op and im gonna be updating it monthly, consider it my request for you guys to go ladder and fix the abomination that is those stats
 

Bughouse

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hi
i was wondering if there wqs a way to do correlation statistics
example: kanga was used in 50% of all games. cresselia was used with it 50% of those times.
or is that just a bunch of hand input data which is boring
there are teammates stats on the ladder

for the 1825 stats, for example: http://www.smogon.com/stats/2015-03/moveset/smogondoubles-1825.txt
Kangaskhan

.....other stuff.....

Teammates | | Heatran +18.515% | | Thundurus +12.893% | | Landorus-Therian +6.751% | | Keldeo +6.316% | | Azumarill +6.036% | | Suicune +5.493% | | Shaymin-Sky +5.214% | | Cresselia +4.192% | | Sylveon +4.060% | | Meowstic +3.452% | | Landorus +3.290% | | Talonflame +2.740% |
 

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Winter Seasonal Stats have been updated with Round 10 stats!! yay. Stratos ALSO fucking slowbro and starmie slipped under the radar and made me spend 15 minutes trying to figure out wtf happened to them
I think you may have forgot to include my battles for Round 10.
The Original Post for Round 10 was never updated with them but its at the end of the Round 10 thread.
I noticed when the total battles were 17 and not 20, and also Gardevoir usage stats did not include a winners bracket loss.
 

Level 51

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I think you may have forgot to include my battles for Round 10.
The Original Post for Round 10 was never updated with them but its at the end of the Round 10 thread.
I noticed when the total battles were 17 and not 20, and also Gardevoir usage stats did not include a winners bracket loss.
sorry, I didn't notice that. I'll add it in sometime today maybe. zzz stats
 

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I find it somewhat worrying that Hitmontop, Scizor and Tyranitar all have higher usage then Metagross, Hydreigon and DIANCE of all things 0_0.
The ladder may be like that but at least if you look at the cumulative stats for seasonal it is in fact the reverse at least.

It would be cool if Level 51 posts a cumulative seasonal usage distribution after its over.
 

Level 51

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hey kamikaze17, i added your teams from the last post which Stratos didn't edit into the OP. sorry it took so long, irl stuff x_x also yeah it should be relatively easy to do a simple usage stat after the whole seasonal, i might even weight it :3

hope everyone's enjoying the stats, i'll add round 11 and 12 after i get back from my trip next friday. cheers~!
 

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