Ubers Calm Mind Kyogre

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[OVERVIEW]

Despite Miraidon taking the spotlight of Ubers's top special wallbreaker, Kyogre is still one of the most threatening Pokemon in the tier, as it often breaks better than Miraidon thanks to teams preparing for it less. Kyogre also sports a surprising amount of defensive utility, as its Drizzle is very useful against Koraidon, and it has enough bulk to take on even physical threats such as Arceus-Ground and Calyrex-I. Kyogre is somewhat limited by its average Speed stat, lack of recovery making it worn down by repeated hits, and by how common Koraidon and Miraidon are, but outside of these flaws, Kyogre should be considered for nearly any bulky offense or balance team.

[SET]

[Calm Mind] (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy / Poison
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 176 SpA / 16 Spe or 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest / Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse / Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]

Origin Pulse's higher power allows for some notable KOs, like OHKOing Ho-Oh outright and having a high chance to OHKO Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM after a layer of Spikes damage. Surf may be chosen for its perfect accuracy. Ice Beam nails Koraidon and Miraidon on the switch in and is Kyogre's best tool to pressure Eternatus and Clodsire. Thunder lets Kyogre break through Arceus-Water and opposing Kyogre, and its 30% paralysis chance is quite useful. Alternatively, Thunder Wave can be used to more directly cripple Eternatus on the switch in. Tera Fairy is usually chosen for its use against Koraidon, allowing Kyogre to take Scale Shot or Low Kick and retaliate back. Tera Poison has use for blocking Toxic from Eternatus, and it can let Kyogre absorb Toxic Spikes for teams that lack a Poison-type or Defog. Since Kyogre does not need the power of a boosting item, Heavy-Duty Boots is the best option, as it lets Kyogre pressure the opposing team without having to worry about entry hazard damage. It's also critical for the hyper offense matchup, as it allows Kyogre to survive +1 Arceus-Ground's Earthquake and +1 Necrozma-DM's Photon Geyser even with entry hazards up. The given EVs allow Kyogre to outspeed paralyzed Zacian-C and Deoxys-A, while the HP and Defense allow Kyogre to survive four hits from Koraidon's Scale Shot at +2, with the rest dumped into Special Attack. A more bulky spread of 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe with a Bold nature allows Kyogre to take one +2 Low Kick from Koraidon as well as +1 Arceus-Ground's Tera Ground-boosted Earthquake.

Kyogre excels on bulky offense and balance teams thanks to its excellent wallbreaking ability and good defensive utility. Arceus-Fairy is a fantastic teammate, as the two together make for perhaps the safest core against Scale Shot Koraidon in the tier. Additionally, Arceus-Fairy can come in on the Choice Scarf Koraidon that Kyogre attracts with ease while also providing Thunder Wave support that may allow Kyogre to get past Eternatus. Choice Scarf Koraidon and Miraidon are good partners for cleaning up weakened teams and can bring in Kyogre easily with U-turn to take advantage of Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Ho-Oh switch-ins. Ground-types like Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Clodsire are highly recommended for dealing with Miraidon, which can OHKO even boosted Kyogre. Ting-Lu, Clodsire, and Gliscor also come with the benefit of Spikes support, chipping away at common switch-ins like Koraidon and Arceus-Water. Necrozma-DM can handle Eternatus and Zacian-C, with Kyogre coming in on Ho-Oh and Ground-types for it in return.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Substitute is an option to allow Kyogre to bypass Eternatus and Clodsire's Toxic, but this set requires Thunder Wave and high bulk investment to work and is generally outclassed by more offensive sets that can threaten Koraidon, Miraidon, Arceus-Water, and opposing Kyogre more effectively. Rest is inadvisable thanks to Miraidon's Electric Terrain preventing its use. Mystic Water and Water Spout may be run on a Thunder Wave set. This gives Kyogre a 64.5% chance to 2HKO Eternatus with Water Spout at full HP, but this set is too vulnerable to entry hazard damage to be realistic.

Checks and Counters
====

**Eternatus**: Eternatus is the most common hard check to Kyogre, as it outspeeds Kyogre and can Toxic stall it in conjunction with Recover. However, Eternatus must be careful of paralysis and Tera Poison.

**Koraidon and Miraidon**: Koraidon's sun severely weakens Kyogre's Water-type attacks, effectively negating any of Kyogre's wallbreaking ability. Miraidon has good special bulk and can power through even boosted Kyogre. However, both Pokemon loathe coming in on Ice Beam.

**Clodsire**: Thanks to Water Absorb, Clodsire can use Toxic against Kyogre and stall out Ice Beam with Recover. However, since Clodsire is slower, it runs the risk of being frozen by repeated Ice Beams, and boosted Ice Beams will 2HKO Clodsire. Tera Steel Clodsire hard walls Kyogre and has next to nothing to fear from it.

**Water-types**: Kyogre can pivot into opposing Kyogre using Ice Beam and trade with it using Thunder. Arceus-Water, especially Calm Mind variants, is a decent check to Kyogre sets that lack Thunder.

**Giratina-O**: Giratina-O is bulky, resists Water, and can shave off over half of Kyogre's HP with Poltergeist while often being faster than it. However, it must watch out for Ice Beam.

**Arceus-Grass**: Albeit rare, Arceus-Grass can hard wall anything Kyogre can throw at it, match Kyogre's boosts with Calm Mind, and do massive damage back with Grass Knot.

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[OVERVIEW]

Despite Miraidon taking the spotlight of Uber's top special wallbreaker, Kyogre is still one of the most threatening Pokemon in the tier, which often breaks better than Miraidon thanks to the less common preparation for it. Kyogre also sports a surprising amount of defensive utility, as its Drizzle is very useful against Koraidon, and it has enough bulk to take on even physical threats such as Arceus-Ground and Calyrex-I. Kyogre is somewhat limited by its average Speed stat and by how common Koraidon and Miraidon are, but outside of these flaws Kyogre should be considered for nearly any bulky offense or balance team.

+2 252 Atk Koraidon Scale Shot (4 hits) vs. 240 HP / 4 Def Kyogre: 372-436 (92.7 - 108.7%) -- approx. 43.8% chance to OHKO
^ this spread sucks complete ass into koraidon, you need at least 76 def to not die in 4. no, using tera on kyogre MANDATORY is not good. being forced to tera is not good. you want to have chances WITHOUT having to tera. (+2 252 Atk Koraidon Scale Shot (4 hits) vs. 240 HP / 76 Def Kyogre: 336-400 (83.7 - 99.7%))


[SET]

[Calm Mind] (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy / Poison
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Origin Pulse / Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

calm mind is the name of the set so PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD, make calm mind the first move.

[SET COMMENTS]

Origin Pulse's higher power allows for some notable KOs, like guaranteeing the OHKO on Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM after a layer of Spikes damage. Surf may be chosen for its perfect accuracy. Ice Beam nails Koraidon and Miraidon on the switch-in, and is Kyogre's best tool to pressure Eternatus and Clodsire. Thunder lets Kyogre break through Arceus-Water and opposing Kyogre, and its 30% paralysis chance is quite useful. Alternatively, Thunder Wave can be used to more directly cripple Eternatus on the switch-in. Tera Fairy is usually chosen for its use against Koraidon, allowing Kyogre to take Scale Shot or Low Kick and retaliate back. Tera Poison has use for blocking Toxic from Eternatus, and it can let Kyogre absorb Toxic Spikes for teams that lack a Poison-type or Defog. Since Kyogre does not need the power of a boosting item, Heavy-Duty Boots is the best option, as it lets Kyogre pressure the opposing team without having to worry about entry hazard damage. It's also critical for the hyper offense match-up, as it allows Kyogre to live +1 Arceus-Ground's Earthquake and +1 Necrozma-DM's Photon Geyser even with entry hazards up. The given EVs allow Kyogre to outspeed paralyzed Zacian-C and Deoxys-A, with the rest dumped into Special Attack and HP. It's inadvisable to run less bulk than what's given, as it jeopardizes Kyogre's ability to check the aforementioned physical threats.

Kyogre excels on bulky offense and balance teams thanks to its excellent wallbreaking ability and good defensive utility. Arceus-Fairy is a fantastic teammate, as the two together make for perhaps the safest core against Scale Shot Koraidon in the tier. Additionally, Arceus-Fairy can come in on the Choice Scarf Koraidon that Kyogre attracts with ease, while also providing Thunder Wave support that may allow Kyogre to get past Eternatus. Choice Scarf Koraidon and Miraidon are good partners for cleaning up weakened teams, and can bring in Kyogre easily with U-turn to take advantage of Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Ho-Oh switch-ins. Ground-types like Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Clodsire are highly recommended for dealing with Miraidon, which can OHKO even boosted Kyogre. Necrozma-DM can handle Eternatus and Zacian-C, with Kyogre coming in on Ho-Oh and Ground-types for it in return.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Rest is inadvisable thanks to Miraidon's Electric Terrain preventing its use. Mystic Water and Water Spout may be run on a Thunder Wave set. This gives Kyogre a 64.5% chance to 2HKO Eternatus with Water Spout from full HP, but this set is too vulnerable to entry hazard damage to be realistic.

mention that a more defensive spread is an option to be better into koraidon. you can run modest and bold on this. bold spreads need origin pulse so you always 2hko caly.

Checks and Counters
====

move korai and mirai up here. why is clodsire above them. similarly; why is arc grass above gira-o. do better.

**Eternatus**: Eternatus is the most common hard check to Kyogre, as it outspeeds Kyogre and can Toxic it and proceed to stall Kyogre out with Recover. However, Eternatus must be careful of paralysis and Tera Poison.

**Clodsire**: Thanks to Water Absorb, Clodsire can Toxic Kyogre and stall out Ice Beam with Recover. However, since Clodsire is slower, it runs the risk of being frozen by repeated Ice Beams. Tera Steel Clodsire hard walls Kyogre and has next to nothing to fear from it.

**Koraidon and Miraidon**: Koraidon's sun severely weakens Kyogre's Water-type attacks, effectively negating any ability for Kyogre to wallbreak. Miraidon has good special bulk and can power through even boosted Kyogre thanks to Electro Drift's power boost on super-effective targets. However, Both Pokemon loath coming in on Ice Beam.

**Arceus-Grass**: Arceus-Grass is rare, but it Albeit rare, Arceus-Grass hard walls anything Kyogre can throw at it and does massive damage back with Grass Knot.

**Giratina-O**: Giratina-O is bulky, resists Water, and can shave off over half of Kyogre's HP with Poltergeist, while often being faster than Kyogre. It must, (add comma) however, watch out for Ice Beam.

**Water-types**: Kyogre can pivot in on opposing Kyogre using Ice Beam and trade with it using Thunder. Arceus-Water, especially Calm Mind variants, are a decent check to Kyogre sets that lack Thunder.

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[OVERVIEW]

Despite Miraidon taking the spotlight of Uber's top special wallbreaker, Kyogre is still one of the most threatening Pokemon in the tier, which often breaks better than Miraidon thanks to the less common preparation for it. Kyogre also sports a surprising amount of defensive utility, as its Drizzle is very useful against Koraidon, and it has enough bulk to take on even physical threats such as Arceus-Ground and Calyrex-I. Kyogre is somewhat limited by its average Speed stat and by how common Koraidon and Miraidon are, I think it might also be worth mentioning that Kyogre doesn't have reliable recovery and thus can get overwhelmed by repeated hits but outside of these flaws Kyogre should be considered for nearly any bulky offense or balance team.

[SET]

[Calm Mind] (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy / Poison
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 176 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Origin Pulse / Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind put this in the first slot istg
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]

Origin Pulse's higher power allows for some notable KOs, like guaranteeing the OHKO on Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM after a layer of Spikes damage. Surf may be chosen for its perfect accuracy. Ice Beam nails Koraidon and Miraidon on the switch-in, and is Kyogre's best tool to pressure Eternatus and Clodsire. Thunder lets Kyogre break through Arceus-Water and opposing Kyogre, and its 30% paralysis chance is quite useful. Alternatively, Thunder Wave can be used to more directly cripple Eternatus on the switch-in. Tera Fairy is usually chosen for its use against Koraidon, allowing Kyogre to take Scale Shot or Low Kick and retaliate back. Tera Poison has use for blocking Toxic from Eternatus, and it can let Kyogre absorb Toxic Spikes for teams that lack a Poison-type or Defog. Since Kyogre does not need the power of a boosting item, Heavy-Duty Boots is the best option, as it lets Kyogre pressure the opposing team without having to worry about entry hazard damage. It's also critical for the hyper offense match-up, as it allows Kyogre to live +1 Arceus-Ground's Earthquake and +1 Necrozma-DM's Photon Geyser even with entry hazards up. The given EVs allow Kyogre to outspeed paralyzed Zacian-C and Deoxys-A, while the HP and Defense allow Kyogre to live four hits from Koraidon's Scale Shot at +2, with the rest dumped into Special Attack. It's inadvisable to run less bulk than what's given, as it jeopardizes Kyogre's ability to check the aforementioned physical threats. this feels like extra info imo

Kyogre excels on bulky offense and balance teams thanks to its excellent wallbreaking ability and good defensive utility. Arceus-Fairy is a fantastic teammate, as the two together make for perhaps the safest core against Scale Shot Koraidon in the tier. Additionally, Arceus-Fairy can come in on the Choice Scarf Koraidon that Kyogre attracts with ease, while also providing Thunder Wave support that may allow Kyogre to get past Eternatus. Choice Scarf Koraidon and Miraidon are good partners for cleaning up weakened teams, and can bring in Kyogre easily with U-turn to take advantage of Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Ho-Oh switch-ins. Ground-types like Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Clodsire are highly recommended for dealing with Miraidon, which can OHKO even boosted Kyogre. You mentioned cases where Kyogre abuses Spikes so I'd bring up Spikes with Ting and Clod Necrozma-DM can handle Eternatus and Zacian-C, with Kyogre coming in on checking Ho-Oh and Ground-types for it in return. Kyogre doesn't really safely switch in on these mons, Brave Bird does 40 minimum and the grounds all have some way of crippling it

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Rest is inadvisable thanks to Miraidon's Electric Terrain preventing its use. Mystic Water and Water Spout may be run on a Thunder Wave set. This gives Kyogre a 64.5% chance to 2HKO Eternatus with Water Spout from full HP, but this set is too vulnerable to entry hazard damage to be realistic.
agreeing with corvere here, bulkier spreads deserve a mention in OO

Checks and Counters
====

**Eternatus**: Eternatus is the most common hard check to Kyogre, as it outspeeds Kyogre and can Toxic it and proceed to stall Kyogre out with Recover. However, Eternatus must be careful of paralysis and Tera Poison.

**Koraidon and Miraidon**: Koraidon's sun severely weakens Kyogre's Water-type attacks, effectively negating any ability for Kyogre to wallbreak. Miraidon has good special bulk and can power through even boosted Kyogre thanks to Electro Drift's power boost on super-effective targets extra info. Both Pokemon loathe coming in on Ice Beam.

**Clodsire**: Thanks to Water Absorb, Clodsire can Toxic Kyogre and stall out Ice Beam with Recover. However, since Clodsire is slower, it runs the risk of being frozen by repeated Ice Beams. mention that Clod gets 2HKOed by boosted Ice Beam without Tera and that Clod can get overwhelmed bc it's also trying to check Mirai Tera Steel Clodsire hard walls Kyogre and has next to nothing to fear from it.

**Giratina-O**: Giratina-O is bulky, resists Water, and can shave off over half of Kyogre's HP with Poltergeist, while often being faster than Kyogre. It must watch out for Ice Beam.

**Arceus-Grass**: Albeit rare, Arceus-Grass hard walls anything Kyogre can throw at it and does massive damage back with Grass Knot.

**Water-types**: Kyogre can pivot in on opposing Kyogre using Ice Beam and trade with it using Thunder. Arceus-Water, especially Calm Mind variants, are a decent check to Kyogre sets that lack Thunder. would move the waters to before gira imo. either way why the hell are the waters below arceus grass.

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[OVERVIEW]

Despite Miraidon taking the spotlight of Uber's top special wallbreaker, Kyogre is still one of the most threatening Pokemon in the tier, which often breaks better than Miraidon thanks to the less common preparation for it. Kyogre also sports a surprising amount of defensive utility, as its Drizzle is very useful against Koraidon, and it has enough bulk to take on even physical threats such as Arceus-Ground and Calyrex-I. Kyogre is somewhat limited by its average Speed stat and by how common Koraidon and Miraidon are, I think it might also be worth mentioning that Kyogre doesn't have reliable recovery and thus can get overwhelmed by repeated hits agreed but outside of these flaws Kyogre should be considered for nearly any bulky offense or balance team.

[SET]

[Calm Mind] (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy / Poison
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 176 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Origin Pulse / Surf
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind put this in the first slot istg agreed
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]

Origin Pulse's higher power allows for some notable KOs, like guaranteeing the OHKO on Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM can also mention that Ho-Oh lives surf but not Pulse after a layer of Spikes damage. Surf may be chosen for its perfect accuracy. Ice Beam nails Koraidon and Miraidon on the switch-in, and is Kyogre's best tool to pressure Eternatus and Clodsire. maybe add a sentence here or some phrasing that emphasizes how important chipping Koraidon is for Ogre Thunder lets Kyogre break through Arceus-Water and opposing Kyogre, and its 30% paralysis chance is quite useful. Alternatively, Thunder Wave can be used to more directly cripple Eternatus on the switch-in. Tera Fairy is usually chosen for its use against Koraidon, allowing Kyogre to take Scale Shot or Low Kick and retaliate back. Tera Poison has use for blocking Toxic from Eternatus, and it can let Kyogre absorb Toxic Spikes for teams that lack a Poison-type or Defog. Since Kyogre does not need the power of a boosting item, Heavy-Duty Boots is the best option, as it lets Kyogre pressure the opposing team without having to worry about entry hazard damage. It's also critical for the hyper offense match-up, as it allows Kyogre to live +1 Arceus-Ground's Earthquake and +1 Necrozma-DM's Photon Geyser even with entry hazards up. The given EVs allow Kyogre to outspeed paralyzed Zacian-C and Deoxys-A, while the HP and Defense allow Kyogre to live four hits from Koraidon's Scale Shot at +2, with the rest dumped into Special Attack. It's inadvisable to run less bulk than what's given, as it jeopardizes Kyogre's ability to check the aforementioned physical threats. this feels like extra info imo agreed

Kyogre excels on bulky offense and balance teams thanks to its excellent wallbreaking ability and good defensive utility. Arceus-Fairy is a fantastic teammate, as the two together make for perhaps the safest core against Scale Shot Koraidon in the tier. Additionally, Arceus-Fairy can come in on the Choice Scarf Koraidon that Kyogre attracts with ease, while also providing Thunder Wave support that may allow Kyogre to get past Eternatus. Choice Scarf Koraidon and Miraidon are good partners for cleaning up weakened teams, and can bring in Kyogre easily with U-turn to take advantage of Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Ho-Oh switch-ins. Ground-types like Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Clodsire are highly recommended for dealing with Miraidon, which can OHKO even boosted Kyogre. You mentioned cases where Kyogre abuses Spikes so I'd bring up Spikes with Ting and Clod agreed Necrozma-DM can handle Eternatus and Zacian-C, with Kyogre coming in on checking Ho-Oh and Ground-types for it in return. Kyogre doesn't really safely switch in on these mons, Brave Bird does 40 minimum and the grounds all have some way of crippling it i think this is fine enough, it pivots into them as a one / two time check, but i agree that we can specify that it is limited

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Rest is inadvisable thanks to Miraidon's Electric Terrain preventing its use. Mystic Water and Water Spout may be run on a Thunder Wave set. This gives Kyogre a 64.5% chance to 2HKO Eternatus with Water Spout from full HP, but this set is too vulnerable to entry hazard damage to be realistic.
agreeing with corvere here, bulkier spreads deserve a mention in OO agreed

Checks and Counters
====

**Eternatus**: Eternatus is the most common hard check to Kyogre, as it outspeeds Kyogre and can Toxic it and proceed to stall Kyogre out with Recover. However, Eternatus must be careful of paralysis and Tera Poison.

**Koraidon and Miraidon**: Koraidon's sun severely weakens Kyogre's Water-type attacks, effectively negating any ability for Kyogre to wallbreak. Miraidon has good special bulk and can power through even boosted Kyogre thanks to Electro Drift's power boost on super-effective targets extra info agreed. Both Pokemon loathe coming in on Ice Beam.

**Clodsire**: Thanks to Water Absorb, Clodsire can Toxic Kyogre and stall out Ice Beam with Recover. However, since Clodsire is slower, it runs the risk of being frozen by repeated Ice Beams. mention that Clod gets 2HKOed by boosted Ice Beam without Tera and that Clod can get overwhelmed bc it's also trying to check Mirai would also mention this before you mention the worry about freezes, because offensive ogre can easily overwhelm clod Tera Steel Clodsire hard walls Kyogre and has next to nothing to fear from it.

**Giratina-O**: Giratina-O is bulky, resists Water, and can shave off over half of Kyogre's HP with Poltergeist, while often being faster than Kyogre. It must watch out for Ice Beam.

**Arceus-Grass**: Albeit rare, Arceus-Grass hard walls anything Kyogre can throw at it and does massive damage back with Grass Knot. also mention that it can boost alongside it maybe? not super needed tho

**Water-types**: Kyogre can pivot in on opposing Kyogre using Ice Beam and trade with it using Thunder. Arceus-Water, especially Calm Mind variants, are a decent check to Kyogre sets that lack Thunder. would move the waters to before gira imo. either way why the hell are the waters below arceus grass. at the very least, put it above Grassceus

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[OVERVIEW]

Despite Miraidon taking the spotlight of Uber's Ubers's top special wallbreaker, Kyogre is still one of the most threatening Pokemon in the tier, as it which often breaks better than Miraidon thanks to the less common preparation for it teams preparing for it less. Kyogre also sports a surprising amount of defensive utility, as its Drizzle is very useful against Koraidon, and it has enough bulk to take on even physical threats such as Arceus-Ground and Calyrex-I. Kyogre is somewhat limited by its average Speed stat, lack of recovery making it worn down by repeated hits, and by how common Koraidon and Miraidon are, but outside of these flaws, (add comma) Kyogre should be considered for nearly any bulky offense or balance team.

[SET]

[Calm Mind] (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy / Poison
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 176 SpA / 16 Spe or 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest / Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse / Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]

Origin Pulse's higher power allows for some notable KOs, like OHKOing Ho-Oh outright and having a high chance to OHKO Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM after a layer of Spikes damage. Surf may be chosen for its perfect accuracy. Ice Beam nails Koraidon and Miraidon on the switch in switch-in, and is Kyogre's best tool to pressure Eternatus and Clodsire. Thunder lets Kyogre break through Arceus-Water and opposing Kyogre, and its 30% paralysis chance is quite useful. Alternatively, Thunder Wave can be used to more directly cripple Eternatus on the switch-in switch in. Tera Fairy is usually chosen for its use against Koraidon, allowing Kyogre to take Scale Shot or Low Kick and retaliate back. Tera Poison has use for blocking Toxic from Eternatus, and it can let Kyogre absorb Toxic Spikes for teams that lack a Poison-type or Defog. Since Kyogre does not need the power of a boosting item, Heavy-Duty Boots is the best option, as it lets Kyogre pressure the opposing team without having to worry about entry hazard damage. It's also critical for the hyper offense match-up matchup, as it allows Kyogre to live survive +1 Arceus-Ground's Earthquake and +1 Necrozma-DM's Photon Geyser even with entry hazards up. The given EVs allow Kyogre to outspeed paralyzed Zacian-C and Deoxys-A, while the HP and Defense allow Kyogre to live survive four hits from Koraidon's Scale Shot at +2, with the rest dumped into Special Attack. A more bulky spread of 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe with a Bold nature allows Kyogre to take one +2 Low Kick from Koraidon as well as +1 Arceus-Ground's Tera Ground-boosted Earthquake.

Kyogre excels on bulky offense and balance teams thanks to its excellent wallbreaking ability and good defensive utility. Arceus-Fairy is a fantastic teammate, as the two together make for perhaps the safest core against Scale Shot Koraidon in the tier. Additionally, Arceus-Fairy can come in on the Choice Scarf Koraidon that Kyogre attracts with ease, (remove comma) while also providing Thunder Wave support that may allow Kyogre to get past Eternatus. Choice Scarf Koraidon and Miraidon are good partners for cleaning up weakened teams, (remove comma) and can bring in Kyogre easily with U-turn to take advantage of Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Ho-Oh switch-ins. Ground-types like Ting-Lu, Arceus-Ground, and Clodsire are highly recommended for dealing with Miraidon, which can OHKO even boosted Kyogre. Ting-Lu, Clodsire, and Gliscor also come with the benefit of Spikes support, chipping away at common switch-ins like Koraidon and Arceus-Water. Necrozma-DM can handle Eternatus and Zacian-C, with Kyogre coming in on Ho-Oh and Ground-types for it in return.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Substitute is an option to allow Kyogre to bypass Eternatus and Clodsire's Toxic, but this set requires Thunder Wave and high bulk investment to work, (remove comma) and is generally outclassed by more offensive sets that can threaten Koraidon, Miraidon, Arceus-Water, and opposing Kyogre more effectively. Rest is inadvisable thanks to Miraidon's Electric Terrain preventing its use. Mystic Water and Water Spout may be run on a Thunder Wave set. This gives Kyogre a 64.5% chance to 2HKO Eternatus with Water Spout from at full HP, but this set is too vulnerable to entry hazard damage to be realistic.

Checks and Counters
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**Eternatus**: Eternatus is the most common hard check to Kyogre, as it outspeeds Kyogre and can Toxic it and proceed to stall Kyogre out Toxic stall it in conjunction with Recover. However, Eternatus must be careful of paralysis and Tera Poison.

**Koraidon and Miraidon**: Koraidon's sun severely weakens Kyogre's Water-type attacks, effectively negating any ability for Kyogre to of Kyogre's wallbreaking ability. Miraidon has good special bulk and can power through even boosted Kyogre. However, both Both Pokemon loath loathe coming in on Ice Beam.

**Clodsire**: Thanks to Water Absorb, Clodsire can use Toxic against Kyogre and stall out Ice Beam with Recover. However, since Clodsire is slower, it runs the risk of being frozen by repeated Ice Beams, and boosted Ice Beams will 2HKO Clodsire. Tera Steel Clodsire hard walls Kyogre and has next to nothing to fear from it.

**Water-types**: Kyogre can pivot into on opposing Kyogre using Ice Beam and trade with it using Thunder. Arceus-Water, especially Calm Mind variants, are is a decent check to Kyogre sets that lack Thunder.

**Giratina-O**: Giratina-O is bulky, resists Water, and can shave off over half of Kyogre's HP with Poltergeist, (remove comma) while often being faster than Kyogre it. It However, it must watch out for Ice Beam.

**Arceus-Grass**: Albeit rare, Arceus-Grass can hard wall anything Kyogre can throw at it, match Kyogre's boosts with Calm Mind, and do massive damage back with Grass Knot.

[SET CREDITS]
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