Doubles Abomasnow

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Overview
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Abomasnow's noticeably low Speed restricts it to only function well in Trick Room, and where most Trick Room teams struggle mightily against Amoonguss, it acts as one of the best counters to the same. Abomasnow's unique typing gives it an immunity to Spore, resistances to common attacking types such as Electric, Ground, and Water, and a pair of very threatening STAB attacks. This in combination with Mega Abomasnow's respectable bulk, great mixed offensive stats, and the fact it's the slowest Mega Pokemon make it very threatening while Trick Room is up.

However, Abomasnow's typing acts as a double-edged sword: with good resistances and powerful STAB comes a plethora of weaknesses, including ones to common attacking types such as Fire, Fighting, and Steel. Additionally, Abomasnow is unable to get past most Steel- and Fire-types, even with coverage moves. Furthermore, hail can easily be stalled out as it lasts only five turns, limiting the amount of time it can be utilized by Abomasnow and its team. Despite this, Abomasnow can be a very threatening Pokemon given the proper circumstances.

Mega Mixed Attacker
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name: Mega Mixed Attacker
move 1: Blizzard
move 2: Giga Drain / Wood Hammer
move 3: Ice Shard / Earthquake
move 4: Protect
ability: Snow Warning
item: Abomasite
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Atk
IVs: 0 Spe
nature: Quiet

Moves
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Under hail, Blizzard won't miss and hits both opponents for heavy damage if they do not resist it. Giga Drain is the preferred move in the second slot as it provides a form of recovery, does not have recoil, and complements Abomasnow's great bulk. However, if you prefer power over durability, Wood Hammer is a viable option. Ice Shard is to give Abomasnow a fighting chance if Trick Room is no longer on the field. Earthquake is a great spread move to cover the troublesome Fire- and Steel-types, such as Heatran, Metagross, and Aegislash. However, do note that its damage output is low. If Earthquake is used, take note that the team has to have a greater focus on Trick Room than if it used Ice Shard, which allows Abomasnow to function outside Trick Room as well. Finally, Protect is there to scout for super effective moves the opponent might have, buying a free turn for a teammate and dealing hail damage to bring something closer to OHKO range.

Set Details
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Without Abomasite, Abomasnow suffers a decrease in power and bulk that renders it almost worthless. The given EV spread grants Abomasnow respectable bulk while maintaining a threatening offensive presence. 48 Attack EVs can be used if you are running Wood Hammer to OHKO bulky Rotom-W, Jellicent, and Tyranitar; this also gives Ice Shard more power to score the crucial revenge KO on weakened opponents or those like Garchomp, Togekiss, and Shaymin-S quickly should they survive Blizzard with a Yache Berry. 0 Speed IVs and a Quiet nature guarantee that Abomasnow will be "faster" for the most part under Trick Room, as well as set hail after any other weather setter.

Usage Tips
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Mega Abomasnow is the slowest Mega Evolution out there; therefore, the Ice Shard set appreciates Trick Room support to take advantage of Mega Abomasnow's low 30 base Speed, while the Earthquake set absolutely needs Trick Room. Mega Abomasnow's objective is to maintain offensive presence with Blizzard to soften up or clean the enemy. It also has the inherent ability to deter Spore users so you can set up Trick Room in peace. Because Abomasnow needs Trick Room in order to be "fast," it should be reserved for later in the match rather than immediately brought out to allow its partners to set up Trick Room, while also removing any rain, sun, or sand upon switching in. Note that Snow Warning will activate once again when Abomasnow Mega Evolves; this gives Abomasnow more safety on maintaining hail against opposing weather setters that plan on switching in. Choosing when to Mega Evolve can be crucial to winning the weather war. Beware of Wide Guard users, as they can stop Abomasnow's Blizzard and Earthquake and disrupt its strategy.

Team Options
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Powerful special attackers such as Kyurem, Greninja, and Genesect can reliably use Blizzard as coverage if Abomasnow sets up hail. In general, good partners to this set are Pokemon that can provide Trick Room and deal with opposing Fire- and Steel-types. Chandelure and Jellicent in particular are excellent partners because they can set up Trick Room, provide Will-O-Wisp support, and destroy opposing Steel- and Fire-types, respectively. Other good Trick Room setters include Reuniclus and Cresselia, which can provide Helping Hand support as well as deal with Fighting-types; Reuniclus gets bonus points for being immune to hail. Heatran and Chandelure are great partners to check Steel-types for Abomasnow; in return, Abomasnow checks Water-types for the two. Heatran and Chandelure can also take advantage of Fire-type moves aimed at Abomasnow thanks to Flash Fire, though they should not be relied upon to check Fire-types for it. Flying-type teammates, such as Tornadus and Talonflame, are also recommended to deal with the Fighting-types that Abomasnow is threatened by. The latter also doesn't mind being in Trick Room thanks to Gale Wings. Pokemon that have overall good synergy with Abomasnow include Rotom-W, which takes care of Fire-types and burns physical attackers with Will-O-Wisp, and Talonflame, which doesn't mind Trick Room with priority Brave Bird and can deal with Scizor and Escavalier outside of Trick Room.

Other Options
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Rock Slide or Hidden Power Rock can be used to surprise and KO Mega Charizard Y. Leech Seed is an interesting option to further wear an opponent down while providing Mega Abomasnow with a source of recovery. Hidden Power Fire can be used to destroy Scizor, Escavalier, and Ferrothorn, which also happen to be Trick Room threats. Some different sets can be used if the Mega slot is already taken: for example, a Focus Sash set can be useful for surviving a Fire- or Steel-type attack and retaliating with the appropriate coverage move, but it might be difficult to use and is very situational. A Choice Scarf set can be used to spam fast Blizzards and revenge kill threats such as Landorus-T, but the loss of power and freedom to choose moves are extremely restrictive. Most Landorus-T commonly use a Choice Scarf anyway, leaving Choice Scarf Abomasnow unable to outspeed and KO it and reducing its overall effectiveness in the tier.

Checks and Counters
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**Offensive Typing Advantage**: Abomasnow can't deal with most Steel- and Fire-types because they resist both of its STAB moves. Most notably, Heatran beats any Abomasnow set without Earthquake almost all the time. Other Steel-types like Escavalier, Scizor, Metagross, and Mega Mawile put a full stop to Abomasnow because they can take any hit and OHKO back. Other Fire-types like Chandelure, Talonflame, and Charizard can also survive any hit and OHKO with their Fire-type STAB moves. A special mention goes to Mega Venusaur, as it is the only Grass-type capable of taking Blizzard thanks to Thick Fat and can KO Abomasnow with Sludge Bomb. Fighting-types like Conkeldurr, Hitmontop, Scrafty, and Terrakion limit Abomasnow's longevity with their STAB moves, although most of them don't OHKO Mega Abomasnow and need to watch out for Blizzard. Finally, many powerful offensive Pokemon in general can 2HKO Abomasnow with their non-resisted STAB attacks, so Abomasnow always needs to be on the lookout.

**Priority Moves**: Due to Abomasnow's poor defensive typing, many common priority moves in the tier are able to deal super effective damage to it and severely maim it. These are also extremely dangerous as they outspeed Abomasnow even in Trick Room. Scizor's Bullet Punch, Conkeldurr's Mach Punch, and Talonflame's Brave Bird are all priority moves that can take down Abomasnow with ease.

**Opposing Weather**: Mega Charizard Y and Tyranitar can change the weather and OHKO Abomasnow with Heat Wave and Rock Slide respectively. However, Mega Charizard Y won't enjoy Rock Slide and still takes damage from Blizzard, and Tyranitar needs to watch out for Wood Hammer.

**Utility Moves**: Wide Guard disrupts Abomasnow's strategy by stopping the usage of Blizzard and Earthquake. Aegislash in particular is a problem as it is the only Wide Guard user that resists both of Abomasnow's STABs whilst posing the threat of a super effective attack. Even without Wide Guard, it can set up a Substitute that cannot be broken by Blizzard or Wood Hammer in Shield forme.
 
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Earthquake really needs to be used over Ice Shard, which should be slashed after. Mega-Abomasnow needs priority less when it can have teammates with access to it, and otherwise it doesn't even come close to touching threats like Heatran that otherwise wall it entirely. An improvement to the spread when running Earthquake would be 252 Hp / 136 Atk / 120 SpAtk to guarantee a 1HKO to 252 / 0 Heatran and 2HKO a multitude of other Fire and Steel types.

Energy Ball should also be first, with Giga Drain slashed. Energy Ball scores important KOs (2HKO Tyranitar in the Sand, 1HKO Slowbro after Hail, 1HKO 252 / 0 Mamoswine) that Giga Drain does not.

Jellicent and Focus Sash Chandelure also make great Trick Room setters. The former can nearly always set up with or without Fake Out support and the latter has the added bonus of soaking Fire attacks that Mega-Abomasnow hates. Didn't see that in the original post. My bad!
 
Not sure about the significance of changing from "Skeleton" to "Ready," but I have raised concerns that you have not addressed.
 

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Ice Shard guarantees KOs even in Trick Room, and can be used to get speedy KOs on Dragon-, Flying- and Ground-types. <-- that sounds wrong

Rock Slide or Earthquake can be used in place of Ice Shard or Protect if you really don't like Mega Charizard Y or Heatran, but it's better to handle those Pokemon with a teammate instead. <- pls no

48 Atk EVs gives Ice Shard enough power to guarantee KO's on low health opponents as well as KO other Pokemon like Garchomp, Togekiss and Shaymin-S quickly should they survive Blizzard with a Yache Berry or Focus Sash. <- 48 attack doesn't pick up OHKOS on anything, why word it like it does

48 Atk Mega Abomasnow Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 240-288 (67 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage
48 Atk Mega Abomasnow Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latios: 138-164 (45.6 - 54.3%) -- 94.9% chance to 2HKO after hail damage
48 Atk Mega Abomasnow Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 252-300 (78.7 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage
48 Atk Mega Abomasnow Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shaymin-S: 292-348 (85.6 - 102%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

it 2hkos 4x weaknesses, at best.


A Choice Band set consisting of Ice Shard, Wood Hammer, Earthquake and Rock Slide with a Brave nature can be used to some effect, but it is inferior to the Mega set since it lacks the bulk of the Mega Evolution and the freedom of choosing between moves. <- Absolutely not

Add Priority moves to checks and counters, things like Scizor, Conkeldurr, and Talonflame can all destroy Abomasnow.

Please write this better ..
 

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instead of eball i think wood hammer should be mentioned (with an alternate amount of atk investment mentioned in set comments or something so that it can ohko 252 HP ttar)
 
Set:
  • You have Energy Ball slashed but talk about Giga Drain in "Moves". Keep Giga.
  • Slash Earthquake behind Ice Shard imo. Because it is a Trick Room set, Abomasnow can work decently enough without priority.
Moves:
  • Ice Shard allows Abomasnow to revenge kill outside of Trick Room. Don't say "net KOs" because it still sounds like it can OHKO with that description.
  • You mention Wood Hammer twice.
  • Since Abomasnow now has EQ, I want to make sure you highlight that if it uses Earthquake>Ice Shard, the team has to have a greater focus on Trick Room than if it used Ice Shard, which allows Abomasnow to function in Semi-Room.
Set Details:

Usage Tips:
  • Ice Shard Abomasnow appreciates Trick Room. EQ Abomasnow needs it.
  • Watch out for Wide Guard
Team Options:
  • Mention that many Pokemon can reliably use Blizzard as coverage if Abomasnow sets up Hail.
Other Options:
  • There is no reason to use Soundproof over Snow Warning. Scratch dat.
  • Mention that focus sash and scarf sets should be used if another Mega Slot is taken.
  • Rock Slide or HP Rock for Charizard-Y.
  • Leech Seed for being cool
  • HP Fire for stuff like Scizor, Esca, and Ferro
Checks & Counters
  • In the Priority tab, specifically mention this is useful for taking out Abomasnow, even when Trick Room is set up, even though you implied it.
  • Those bullets you have in utility moves aren't utility moves. Move Fighting types and mega kanga to the offensive typing advantages tab, and you alread mentioned Talonflame.
  • keep utility tho and put Wide Guard in it.
 

Stratos

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You say "hail is great for disrupting opposing weather strategies" but charizard, venusaur, tran all beat aboma 1v1 and it's not a fan of switching in on ttar, exca, lando, or top either. Because of zard, hail is dead; abomasnow basically just functions as a standalone tr attacker, anti-Sleep measure (one of the best Amoonguss counters), and rain check because blizzard is a ducking amazing move.

You mention his speed, but reuniclus and LOL snorlax arent very relevant. Just mention that it outslows everything relevant except for ferrothorn and a tie with amoonguss, why is everything slow in dubs a grass type

In overview: basically killed by a lot when trick room is not up

"Against opponents with high SpD like tisse ludicolo and gardevoir"

Ice shard is actually weak as fuck and you're kind of a goon if you're using aboma in anything but full tr, just say ice shard makes abomasnow a little less scared of EVERYTHING when tr is not up

Protect doesn't really do too much scouting except maybe for hidden power type. More important is that it does all other standard protect functions

Eq is doing piss damage to any steel- or fire-type not named Heatran which is really its only target; change writeup to reflect this

You say "ice shard hits opponents that survive blizzard with a sash." Great. So does Hail.

"This is aboma's best set" is unneeded. Just say "without abomasite, abomasnow suffers a decrease in power and bulk that renders it almost worthless."

AV Ttar is literally not a thing

You seem really hung up on the whole weather war business. A far more important usage tip with abomasnow is to maintain offensive presence with blizzard to soften or clean the enemy. Also, use it to deter sleep users so you can set trick room in peace.

Mention most lando being scarf under why scarf isnt an effect aboma set this gen as much as last

Sash isn't used to bait super strong attacks, just to not fold to them.

Mega aggron, mega houndoom, blaziken? List relevant mons please.

Gallade too? Not, like, top or scrafty or terrakion; gallade.

Don't mention mkang in particular it's a bad check. Just say powerful offensive pokemon with non-resisted stab usually 2hko.
 

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Metal Sonic where are you getting the statement that it KOs TTar with Wood Hammer from? 44 Atk Mega Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 314-372 (77.7 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. So yeah remove that. In general Giga Drain is better anyways, so list that ahead of Wood Hammer. Then also get Pwnemon's stuff and lemme know when you're done so I can come back and stamp.
 

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Implemented Pwnemon 's suggestions, Audiosurfer.

I have
48 Atk Mega Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 314-372 (92 - 109%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

But I can change it to Giga drain i guess. Just post again and tell me to do so in your stamp.


also would be really nice if you could 3rd stamp this

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/landorus-t-2-3-writeup-done.3499612/
that's 0 hp ttar. while special tar is certainly popular 252 is likely still p. common. also special ttar will beat you with fire blast anyways, so yeah that's why i didn't use that calc.
 

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So what should I do? Leave it as it is? Or slash g drain first?

Also would give <3 if my landog could be checked ^^
 

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Regarding Wood Hammer vs Giga Drain, Abomasnow still beats Jellicent and Rotom-W regardless of whether it chooses Giga Drain or Wood Hammer. All the other targets like Politoed (usually max HP/Def Bold these days), Suicune, Mamoswine etc are either 2HKOed or OHKOed by both moves with the notable exception of Tyranitar who is likely to avoid a 2HKO from Giga Drain. Otherwise, Giga Drain would then be preferred for the healing and lack of recoil - remember that Abomasnow's bulk is one of the reasons to use it. Wood Hammer is useful however if you prefer power over durability.

Mention Heatran and Chandelure in teammates. They can check Steel-types for Abomasnow. In return, Abomasnow checks Water-types for the two. Heatran and Chandelure can also take advantage of Fire-type moves aimed at them thanks to Flash Fire, though they should not be relied upon to check Fire-types for Abomasnow (fighting Fire with Fire is a stupid idea)

Also worth giving a specific mention to Aegislash in counters when mentioning Wide Guard, because it is the only Wide Guard user who resists both your STABs whilst posing a super-effective attack strength. Even without Wide Guard, it can set up a Substitute that cannot be broken by Blizzard or Wood Hammer in Shield form
 

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