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  1. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    One innovation you're starting to see is Body Slam, which actually hits slightly harder than Scald, even after STAB. While you do have to make contact, you still have a 30% chance to status -- and with how important speed is at the moment, Paralyze isn't that much worse than Burn at crippling...
  2. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    honestly it says more about Earthquake that in a meta with Air Balloon and Grassy Terrain, it's still one of the most reliable clicks in the format
  3. Rootb

    Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 12 - Moth To A Flame

    I mean, this makes complete sense to me. While a team like that is prepared for Volcarona, Volcarona and Volcarona, it's a bit weak to mons like Volcarona and especially Volcarona. And while this sounds like (and, honestly, really is) an elaborate shitpost, it's also the reality of the...
  4. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    So, right now, there are 41 pokemon in Ubers proper (less, if you don't count non-Arceus formes as distinct), and another 43 OU in OU proper. That's 84 pokemon out of 733 available in game. At the moment, I am way too lazy to calcuate how many of those are pre-evolutions, but even at a...
  5. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Isn't it obvious? No Covert Cloaks.
  6. Rootb

    Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 11 - We Didn't Start the Fire

    I'd been thinking about making a post about this, but this said it a lot better than I ever could have. When I see people post something like "I'm voting Do Not Ban, this was the wrong choice", it gives off this aura of superiority. It suggests that everyone else is wrong, and they're right, and...
  7. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Unfortunately, I don't think upping reqs will really move the needle, either. Spite is a fantastic motivator, and you're way less likely to stop someone motivated by it than you are to stop just about anyone else. If anything, it might accidentally make the problem worse, as people who only...
  8. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    That's exactly the point, yeah. Not only is it not much easier, debatably it's not even easier at all! Like has been mentioned both in this thread and on twitter, most good players hit reqs well before 1800. Adding the ability to grind out reqs won't meaningfully change how many people are...
  9. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    It's not that it should be made easier, it's that the current system heavily incentivizes spiking. The whole reason it's even a consideration at the moment is because a single person playing through, instead of just resetting their account, has attracted significant attention for doing it "the...
  10. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    It's not really about any specific mon, it's that the total pool of mons has grown. Each additional viable offense threat means one more thing your team has to account for, and the DLC additions lean far more offensive than the base game did. After all, this is a generation where Ting-Lu...
  11. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Everything below 1300 is a lawless wasteland, where the only "usually useless" moves are the ones found in high-rated RMT. Trying to engage the locals in a game of chicken is like trying to win a breath-holding contest against a brick wall.
  12. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    And what's fun is that you can just as easily argue the opposite from the same starting point! You needed not only a specific clause to nerf the moves, but also multiple high tier mons that render your team immune to sleep, just for the mechanic to be balanced. Those two fought valiantly, but...
  13. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Honestly, I think the way they handled it was fantastic. The Policy Review thread was more or less a suspect test, and it allowed them to move through an issue while still taking 2 weeks to collect informed opinions.
  14. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    I mean, you can still win on time. In fact, that's pretty much what Stall is designed to do! Whether it's a chess clock or an arbitrary timer, in the immortal words of the Magic the Gathering Comp Rules:
  15. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    The one thing I think they could have done better was to tag this thread with [NEW VIEWS FROM THE COUNCIL] or [NEW POLICY REVIEW THREAD]. There really was a ton of discussion, and it lasted longer than a suspect test normally would.. but if you aren't clicking into the OU forum on a daily...
  16. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    That's because the best abuser was probably HypnoHex Iron Valiant, not Darkrai. While Darkrai is far more famous as a sleep user, Valiant was able to run a legitimately powerful set that Hypnosis augmented, rather than merely being used as a way to cheese free setup turns. Given the desire for...
  17. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    If it helps, think of it as the council saying that they're going to do something, and then asking players to either agree with them (high vote), or tell them not to do it (low vote). Getting a high vote meant that the voterbase was happy with what was suggested.
  18. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Don't worry, once Gholdengo and Tera get banned you can use it for SubPunch shenanigans
  19. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    You can't vote 0 on the survey, so the actual average is the midway point between 1 and 5 -- 3.0.
  20. Rootb

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    I could see a compromise like assigning regional forms a unique (garbage) dex number, and amending the species clause to require all pokemon to have a unique dex number, rather than a unique species. Stuff like Deoxys, Necrozma, or Furfrou would all be the same pokedex number, since they're just...
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